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Survival in post-coronavirus world (prepping, supplies, protection, money)
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RE: Survival in post-coronavirus world (prepping / supplies / protection / money)
(03-22-2020 04:01 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  To expand on the go-bag....

As a former combat arms person (both enlisted and officer), I'll add that the single most important piece of gear you can carry is having extra pairs of underwear and socks.

You may have been a former combat arms person but you were probably not a commando. In all seriousness, I carry 3-4 and roll them up like a sock and stuff them into small spaces in my backpack.
03-29-2020 06:22 AM
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Do you guys think a fully functioning police force can keep the peace & order? Or can criminal gangs or cartels (easily) throw a monkey wrench into their 'orderly management' of the situation and send things spinning out of control? If so, what would the scenario be like or unfold? For example, if gasoline gets scarce then they can't get around in their police cars to do what they do.
03-29-2020 06:41 AM
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RE: Survival in post-coronavirus world (prepping / supplies / protection / money)
(03-27-2020 11:15 AM)robreke Wrote:  
(03-25-2020 06:46 PM)Sargon2112 Wrote:  Regarding the apparent ammo shortage I'm hearing about, I've got plenty but it's not excessive. No stash can last forever, especially if, God forbid, you had to start using it for what it's intended for. I never learned to reload ammo. I will be learning and buying the required equipment.

Luckily, I have a buddy who reloads, so I can learn from him.

To second what someone else already has said, you need to target practice to stay sharp. Use cheap, small caliber ammo for that and for shooting varmints.
You can also kill a lot of food / small game with a 22 if SHTF. Don't use your high end expensive stuff unless it is necessary. It will become scarce if SHTF. Save it.

I see too many guys with expensive, large caliber weapons just wasting ammo ($$$) at the range to show off for other people. I know it's fun to shoot big guns, but think about what it costs you with each pull of the trigger and think about who you are showing your hand to.

FWIW you can buy "practice lasers" for the popular 9 mm round. You insert these into the breach, and every time the hammer clicks the laser, a dot shows up on the wall right where you're aiming. It helped me with accuracy at the range with real ammo.

https://www.amazon.com/G-Sight-Luger-Tra...414&sr=8-3

I used these to practice for a few shooting tourneys I did. Just went in my garage and, at about 7 yards, practiced on sillouette targets taped to the back wall.

Yeah, it's not shooting real ammo for which there is no substitute, but it's better than nothing and you don't have to buy ammo to "practice" Like I said, I saw improvements.

You can couple that with the the "Splits" app or some other shooting timing app on your phone. you press a button and a buzzer goes off a few seconds later that indicates when you draw and shoot ( from concealed carry or a holster) It helps with speed. That's what shooting's all about - accuracy AND speed.

They may have these breach lasers for other calibers too. I haven't checked.

This sounds like a great product if it works as you say and doesn't have any problems. I checked out the amazon page and the first review says this:

I watched my friend try this out and needless to say, we are never playing with laser cartridges again. He lost his sight by staring at the beam as it shot out of the barrel. The recoil, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. The slide flew back so hard it came right off the frame and into his mouth, knocking out a tooth in the process (luckily he does a lot of meth so he only had that one tooth). Since he used a polymer gun (Glock 69), the whole freaking frame melted onto his hand, now he can't even masturbate without going to the E.R. afterwards. And to add insult to injury, every time people see his hand, they get offended they think my friend is doing the black face but on his hand. Beware of this product.

P.S. The app that they want you to download is actually a program that downloads random videos of turkeys walking across cornfields.


Are these guys just knuckleheads or is there a flaw to this product?
03-29-2020 06:55 AM
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They are knuckleheads, obviously. Also from the description:

"Works as quickly as you can pull the trigger with double action; Manually cycle the slide after each shot with single action."

And presumably, the device is extracted and ejected like a spent round would be-? But maybe not.

My experience with these is using them as a bore sight device to adjust the zero before actually going to the range to dial it in for good. A better training tool for maintaining aiming and trigger squeeze skills is shooting a real .22LR into a bullet trap.


(03-29-2020 06:41 AM)H H Wrote:  Do you guys think a fully functioning police force can keep the peace & order? Or can criminal gangs or cartels (easily) throw a monkey wrench into their 'orderly management' of the situation and send things spinning out of control? If so, what would the scenario be like or unfold? For example, if gasoline gets scarce then they can't get around in their police cars to do what they do.

I think a more immediate problem is the 700 police officers in NJ already infected by the virus. If that's the kind of threat law enforcement already faces they will be reluctant to do their jobs. About ten days ago on the highway at night (packing up & leaving a major metro area) I couldn't help noticing people were driving way faster than usual, knowing the cops are not interested in speeders lately. Even on the secondary roads, people were either driving like they have nowhere to go (they really don't) or that it's the end of the world already. Getting flaky out there.

Cops don't even have the option of using protection that health care workers do - in fact a good part of their job involves getting close enough to people in order to smell alcohol, weed and other incriminating odors. You think they want to be getting close up now, in the era of social distancing?

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03-29-2020 09:04 AM
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(03-29-2020 06:55 AM)H H Wrote:  This sounds like a great product if it works as you say and doesn't have any problems. I checked out the amazon page and the first review says this:

I watched my friend try this out and needless to say, we are never playing with laser cartridges again. He lost his sight by staring at the beam as it shot out of the barrel. The recoil, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. The slide flew back so hard it came right off the frame and into his mouth, knocking out a tooth in the process (luckily he does a lot of meth so he only had that one tooth). Since he used a polymer gun (Glock 69), the whole freaking frame melted onto his hand, now he can't even masturbate without going to the E.R. afterwards. And to add insult to injury, every time people see his hand, they get offended they think my friend is doing the black face but on his hand. Beware of this product.

P.S. The app that they want you to download is actually a program that downloads random videos of turkeys walking across cornfields.


Are these guys just knuckleheads or is there a flaw to this product?

Bold for emphasis.

I don't think this particular review was to be taken seriously.

A quick web search for "funny Amazon reviews" will net funnier ones.
03-29-2020 12:14 PM
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Quote: Since he used a polymer gun (Glock 69), the whole freaking frame melted onto his hand, now he can't even masturbate without going to the E.R. afterwards.

Hmmm...Must be made with one of those illegal high powered Chinese lasers from Ebay! This is clearly a joke. (Glock 69 is like the mythical AR-14)

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^^Haha, thanks to you all for pointing that out. I only read the first two sentences and stopped reading at 'the slide flew back'. Reading thru the rest of it now, it's pretty funny. Didn't know there are fake or joke reviews on Amazon - at least ones this obvious (if you read it in detail). I thought they have review police who takes those down. When I have some more time, I'll have to do a search for more funny reviews now that they're on my radar.

Btw, why is the AR-14 mythical? With the larger round, I actually prefer it over the 15.
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03-29-2020 03:27 PM
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(03-29-2020 09:04 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  They are knuckleheads, obviously. Also from the description:

"Works as quickly as you can pull the trigger with double action; Manually cycle the slide after each shot with single action."

And presumably, the device is extracted and ejected like a spent round would be-? But maybe not.

My experience with these is using them as a bore sight device to adjust the zero before actually going to the range to dial it in for good. A better training tool for maintaining aiming and trigger squeeze skills is shooting a real .22LR into a bullet trap.

You're right, it should not eject. No explosion, no recoil, no ejection. I'll check out that bullet trap, thanks.
03-29-2020 03:33 PM
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(03-29-2020 09:04 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  I think a more immediate problem is the 700 police officers in NJ already infected by the virus. If that's the kind of threat law enforcement already faces they will be reluctant to do their jobs.

This is definitely more probable on the short term than running low on fuel. In general, nobody wants to wear masks or face shields. Certainly not in their car driving around.
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