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(03-22-2020 11:49 AM)Easy E Wrote:  Edit: Also, this talk of "two week quarantine" is BS. They are just going to initially say that so that there isn't mass panic among the public. The quarantine will be for 2 to 3 months at the minimum.

See on the previous page my boots on the ground report on Spain. Same strategy was used here and they just extended the quarantine by 15 days ;-)

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I saw a job posting on indeed yesterday for warehouse personnel for the Army National Guard, job description was making sure your fellow soldiers are well equipped for any mission, receiving and issuing arms and ammunition.

Here's another interesting job posting from a couple days ago, rocket launcher operators https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=202f...277f6b99df

Over the past few days there have been dozens of job postings by the Army National Guard for combat rolls, have a look https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=army+rocke...&sort=date
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(03-22-2020 12:35 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  I saw a job posting on indeed yesterday for warehouse personnel for the Army National Guard, job description was making sure your fellow soldiers are well equipped for any mission, receiving and issuing arms and ammunition.

Here's another interesting job posting from a couple days ago, rocket launcher operators https://www.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=202f...277f6b99df

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The good news is the US is a business-run society and as such, government action isn't going to be tolerated to the extent it is elsewhere. Businesses aren't going to tolerate the shutdown for a long period of time. There are already lawsuits being filed. As soon as the first stimulus runs out, there will be a mass lawyering up. I guarantee it.
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(03-22-2020 12:35 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  Here's another interesting job posting from a couple days ago, rocket launcher operators

Nothing to make anyone's head spin. The guard uses indeed and all these jobsearch websites for recruitment pretty consistantly.

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(03-22-2020 02:12 PM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 12:35 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  Here's another interesting job posting from a couple days ago, rocket launcher operators

Nothing to make anyone's head spin. The guard uses indeed and all these jobsearch websites for recruitment pretty consistantly.

OK, thanks for clarifying, although it still seems strange to be hiring for these rolls at this exact time. You'd think they'd be looking for field nurses or people to help strengthen and support medical/aid supply lines, as they claim to be moving in for... "oh dont worry about martial law, the guard is there to hand out water and supplies", that's the exact message I've seen and heard for the past few days. Maybe I just haven't seen those job listing. Are they planning on launching the supplies via rocket at rural communities in New Hampshire, Tennessee and Wyoming?
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(03-22-2020 02:27 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 02:12 PM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 12:35 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  Here's another interesting job posting from a couple days ago, rocket launcher operators

Nothing to make anyone's head spin. The guard uses indeed and all these jobsearch websites for recruitment pretty consistantly.

OK, thanks for clarifying, although it still seems strange to be hiring for these rolls at this exact time. You'd think they'd be looking for field nurses or people to help strengthen and support medical/aid supply lines, as they claim to be moving in for... "oh dont worry about martial law, the guard is there to hand out water and supplies", that's the exact message I've seen and heard for the past few days. Maybe I just haven't seen those job listing. Are they planning on launching the supplies via rocket at rural communities in New Hampshire, Tennessee and Wyoming?

I do find it encouraging that "90% of employees approve of General Joseph L. Lengyel’s performance as CEO" lol
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Here all non-essential businesses are closed down beginning tonight. Even the DMV just got shut down. I'm working on clarification on whether my business is essential or not but that's a different discussion.

I would say a serious problem is continued interstate travel and states going at this differently. So while people here for the most part are respecting the stay at home order, we'll likely see numerous spring break idiots fly back up here from Florida and being the virus with them.

Do we need national guard quarantines? Probably not. A first step is strict stay at home and the shutting down of all non essential business nation wide, and no more interstate travel- although I guess the latter does require road blocks.

But while we're all staying at home and working from home here, people are partying together, going to beaches, hosting BBQ's with friends, etc, elsewhere across the country. That is going to cause this crap to drag on far longer. Much of the country is weeks behind us in their reaction. So when we finally get this thing under wraps are we supposed to risk everyone who's been dragging their feet on this to bring it here and cause another wave?

It's easier to shut down a country like Korea or Italy or even France/Germany. The US is so large we cannot have all 50 states doing whatever they hell they want as a response. And if they do, don't let anyone leave or enter. Florida is putting the rest of the nation at risk with their idiocy.

Even my own parents think they're going to simply fly or drive up here in May. No. They don't get it. They're older and at risk. And two, when they get here no one is going to want to see them as we're weeks ahead and have cut off all socialization. They think they can just travel up here and host family gatherings per usual. I won't even let my brother in my house and vice versa. Too many around the country have that attitude.
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(03-22-2020 08:22 AM)Neo Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 01:24 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  In China my friends in their 20s 30s are going out to restaurants and living life. On the subway, going to work. They wear masks and wash their hands a lot, clean their phone.

Friend in Taiwan said the school was open. Almost no change in behavior that he could tell.

Friend in S. Korea said he would be messaging less because he is trying to stop using the internet. He is from the USA and cant look at any of this. He feels the world is imploding and losing its freaking mind. SK is fine. He sees friends, goes to restaurants, exercising. Everything is normal.

This is some strange kind of psy-ops on the west.

I mean at the epicenter of this plague, Wuhan, it was serious for a couple months. Everywhere else like in Shenzhen people went along with their normal lives.

This kills people in their late 70s and older, who have at least one other serious health problem. Young people dying are obese, diabetic, cancer survivors with heart problems. And even then its less than hundred worldwide.

I got the same information from my friend in Beijing. She told me outside of Wuhan it wasn't that bad. She was 'isolated' (quarantined) where she was only able to leave for groceries, etc. but now things are pretty much back to normal.

If you time traveled to this moment with no knowledge of what happened you'd think millions were dying in the street.

It's making me question the information and what's really going on here.

This is why nations are enacting strong border controls and measures (China forces 14 day quarantines on people inbound, diverted away from Beijing)

China shutdown for 2 months, with more strict measures in the outbreak hotspot Wuhan (which is still strict lockdown)

Most countries will do this since this is on a global scale.

You close the borders so you get control on incoming infections, meanwhile you quarantine your own population (focused on outbreaks) so it doesn't get out of control, buying you time and not overloading your own health care system. Controlled burn.

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In Hawaii, we have closed our borders.

[Image: 14-day-quarantine-to-begin-thursday-for-...s-to-isles]

Outsiders have until Thursday to come out and infect us.

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(03-22-2020 01:50 PM)FullThrottleTX Wrote:  The good news is the US is a business-run society and as such, government action isn't going to be tolerated to the extent it is elsewhere. Businesses aren't going to tolerate the shutdown for a long period of time. There are already lawsuits being filed. As soon as the first stimulus runs out, there will be a mass lawyering up. I guarantee it.

I think most people would accept a 6-8 week lockdown to contain the virus. Anything more, or if it get "political" (like global warming horseshit in it), then there is going to be a class action lawsuit so massive it will be the biggest in American history.
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(03-22-2020 04:49 PM)Kona Wrote:  In Hawaii, we have closed our borders.

[Image: 14-day-quarantine-to-begin-thursday-for-...s-to-isles]

Outsiders have until Thursday to come out and infect us.

Aloha!

Chin up, brother. You're closer to the dream of a polynesian ethnostate than you think.

Meanwhile the US constitution is interestingly going to cause some real problems if the derelict states call their right to migration without federal interference.

Quote:Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States." Since the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), freedom of movement has been judicially recognized as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as "right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them."[1] However, the Supreme Court did not invest the federal government with the authority to protect freedom of movement. Under the "privileges and immunities" clause, this authority was given to the states, a position the Court held consistently through the years in cases such as Ward v. Maryland, 79 U.S. 418 (1871), the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873) and United States v. Harris, 106 U.S. 629 (1883).[2][3]

As I understand it the various states can still ban travel from another state but the federal government cant intervene either way. However a state banning travel from one other state would effectively have to ban travel from all other states in case someone simply traveled to a non-banned state from a banned state and then entered from there.

Nevada for example could ban people arriving from California but if they fail to do so then would Idaho ban people arriving from Nevada in order to avoid Californians arriving? If Nevada banned Californians from entering they would surely also have to build a wall with Oregon and Arizona too, right? Or would they be happy simply to prevent the bulk of arrivals while suffering the dodgers?

Interdasting times.

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I've read about the quarantine measures in various countries and I have the impression that their severity is directly correlated to how much enslaved the public is, not to the number of infected.

I honestly don't think any stricter measures will appear in Poland. People over here are constantly remembered about their history during WW2, millions still remember communist martial law of '81-'83. We understand that when danger comes we should brace and fight it out. However, the current government while commonly accepted cannot count on much lenience from the public even during normal times. They know that if they stress the public too much they can forget about winning next elections.

Now, why curfew in Poland will never work? People here don't like being told what to do, especially by the government, anyone who dares to introduce curfew will be instantly condemned by the public and destined for political graveyard. People will see it as a repeat of 1981 and the prime minister will be branded the new General Jaruzelski. Spring is coming in a big way, people endure six months of gloom and no one will be able to keep them indoors. Not even the military. Government won't dare because they know what backlash this would create. In a few weeks everybody's going to be frustrated and pissed. How long can you sit at home watching your business implode. Anyone who tries to limit our basic freedom will have 38 million partisans on the streets. It's who we are, it's how we were raised. Poles will not sit locked in their homes, when spring is outside and government tries to take their personal freedoms. No disease will prevent the riots and certainly not this corona bullshit.

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Denver is ordering all residents to shelter in place. It is mandatory, and you can only leave for groceries and other essential activities. We are allowed to go for a walk or bike ride for exercise, but must stay more than six feet from other people. A large number of work categories are considered essential, not only food service, but things like road crews, police, utility workers, waste disposal, airport workers, etc. However, outside of various essential infrastructure support jobs, food, medical, and banking, all other jobs are locked down.

They said they took this step because so many people were congregating in the parks this past weekend. I am now locked down starting tomorrow at 5pm, and won't be able to go into work. I will be able to do some work from home, but will be taking some leave time as well. The lock down is currently only set through April 10, but I expect it will most likely be extended.

The rest of the metro area is not on lock down, although there is an order for workplaces to reduce their onsite staffing by at least 50% statewide, along with schools, restaurants, bars, and gyms being closed. I think it's likely other parts of the Denver metro area will order a full lock down soon. In fact, Boulder has also done this, but they are slightly separate from Denver metro.

The hospitals here are not swamped yet, but I spoke with a nurse from one of the big hospitals here, and they expect their numbers will climb quickly going forward, and they expect they might have shortages of ICU spaces within a week or so. The hospitals here have been setting up triage centers with large numbers of beds lined up to handle a large number of incoming COVID19 patients.

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I am good until the end of next week. After that, without being able to go out in the field, my job grinds to a halt. I won’t have much in the way of billable hours.

Even if I could leave my house, the facilities I need to visit are shutdown anyway.

I have cash reserves for an emergency, but if my tenants are unemployed and can’t pay rent, I will burn through those reserves at a rapid pace.
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RoastBeef Wrote:Denver is ordering all residents to shelter in place. It is mandatory, and you can only leave for groceries and other essential activities. We are allowed to go for a walk or bike ride for exercise, but must stay more than six feet from other people. A large number of work categories are considered essential, not only food service, but things like road crews, police, utility workers, waste disposal, airport workers, etc. However, outside of various essential infrastructure support jobs, food, medical, and banking, all other jobs are locked down.

They said they took this step because so many people were congregating in the parks this past weekend. I am now locked down starting tomorrow at 5pm, and won't be able to go into work. I will be able to do some work from home, but will be taking some leave time as well. The lock down is currently only set through April 10, but I expect it will most likely be extended.

Same in Austin, effective at the time of this writing. Everybody and their momma went to the trails today.

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Los Angeles mayor closing trails and parks and threatening "non essential" businesses that he will shut off the water and power if they don't close.
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locked down until April 24 here in WI. All parks, trails etc are still open and the order allows for any 'outdoor activity'. My local gun club closed down because it doesn't want to have any trouble but the public range is still open. If I go, I'm going to make sure I bring a printed copy of the order with me so I can say that I am just pursing outdoor activities.

The order will still be generally ineffective as there are so many exempt businesses. For example, there are probably 10 guys working on a new construction house down the road right now as I type.

No one is going to listen until they hit the first person up with the 30 days in jail and/or $250 fine and put it on the news.

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People in my area are thankfully taking the matter seriously and conceding to the basic recommendations laid out without making a big issue, regardless of whether they agree or not. I'm finding my little island to be a very civilized place, thankfully. Most people I've talked to concede that regardless of whether they're sure about the threat, they would rather be safe than sorry.

After the initial toilet paper debacle calmed down the mood in the city appears to be calm and orderly. Ironically this will means that we probably wont be forced by law to take even stricter measures, especially if we can keep our case load down. The places with tightening restrictions often seem to be the places where a few bad apples demand the right to flaunt emergency measures (because nobody is going to tell them what to do, by golly!) and in doing so trigger an even more authoritarian response.

This is what they're staring down the barrel of in NSW where idiots are flaunting restrictions, leading to even more draconian measures after infections spike as a direct result.

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Austin still pretty normal. Was only a rumor, I suppose.

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(03-25-2020 11:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  People in my area are thankfully taking the matter seriously and conceding to the basic recommendations laid out without making a big issue, regardless of whether they agree or not. I'm finding my little island to be a very civilized place, thankfully. Most people I've talked to concede that regardless of whether they're sure about the threat, they would rather be safe than sorry.

In my book, being safe is having preserved our Freedom of Movement and Congregation. That's more important than a weird (mostly) mild virus that's fifty times less bad than, say, the Cholera.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I'm in favor of stopping the World Great Quarantine Experiment in like a couple of weeks, mid-April maximum, and getting back to life, freedom and business. Before the Establishment has tasted too much of stealing the whole of our freedoms, liked it too much and don't reverse course ever.

I mean, let's give the Establishment 3 weeks, by then either this meek virus is contained, or, it is not contained and therefore it was a terrifying mutating biological weapon escaped from the UN-flagship lab in Wuhan. And in such a terrible case, we want the truth: what exactly is this virus and why does it warrant killing the economy and our basic freedom.
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(03-22-2020 02:27 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  Are they planning on launching the supplies via rocket at rural communities in New Hampshire, Tennessee and Wyoming?

Gotta put our tax dollars to use somehow or they may not be eligible for it the next year. Whip

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(03-25-2020 01:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(03-25-2020 11:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  People in my area are thankfully taking the matter seriously and conceding to the basic recommendations laid out without making a big issue, regardless of whether they agree or not. I'm finding my little island to be a very civilized place, thankfully. Most people I've talked to concede that regardless of whether they're sure about the threat, they would rather be safe than sorry.

In my book, being safe is having preserved our Freedom of Movement and Congregation. That's more important than a weird (mostly) mild virus that's fifty times less bad than, say, the Cholera.

I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I'm in favor of stopping the World Great Quarantine Experiment in like a couple of weeks, mid-April maximum, and getting back to life, freedom and business. Before the Establishment has tasted too much of stealing the whole of our freedoms, liked it too much and don't reverse course ever.

I mean, let's give the Establishment 3 weeks, by then either this meek virus is contained, or, it is not contained and therefore it was a terrifying mutating biological weapon escaped from the UN-flagship lab in Wuhan. And in such a terrible case, we want the truth: what exactly is this virus and why does it warrant killing the economy and our basic freedom.

Well this is the silver lining in all this. If the threat dies down or is found to be false and our civil liberties are not returned post haste then the elites have already provided us with a perfect example of how to put their nuts in a vice without even having to resort to violence. Just stay home and collapse their economy.

Social media posts of some dude saying "help, my only source of income is the rent from an entire apartment block" are really starting to get a lot of noggin's joggin'. Economic rebellion may take off in a big way after this.

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^ Except we'll get broke and die from hunger long before the elites run out of money (plus, they can print money for themselves, so, they are invencible). They can wait us out, and some.

Plus, they wouldn't hesitate to send us the police to force us to work. Just wait, after mandatory vaccine, it'll be mandatory work: "to kick-start back the economy, all men are required to report for factory work, at minimum wage plus one dollar".

Anyway, to beat the crooked Elites, and get back our freedom and countries, I wrote a thread here years ago, if you're interested, it's quite simple:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-53998.html

By the way, and it should go to the "Gold and Silver" and "long-term effects of Quarantine" threads, but, about gold : it is already happening. People's money is leaving banks and migrating to gold.

I mean, there's a pause with respect to official exchange rates (for the technical de-investing reasons explained here by Tail Gunner), but... On the peer-to-peer market, suddenly there are no gold coins left to buy, all the gold coins have been bought in a hurry just before the quarantines.
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