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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Moving off the grid sounds great but I think it's an adventure a man should take up after he's already found a woman to settle down with. Many men complain about he quality of women now and they are only in their 30s. That "built it and they will come" is about as accurate as jerking off makes you cross-eyed. You'll wake up one day and be 50 and alone.

Meet a quality woman first and then figure out what you both want, a mountain home, a lake home, a beach home. The possibilities are endless and all enjoyable when waking up next to someone that loves you.
03-30-2020 10:51 PM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Hence a really basic shack on land owned free and clear is a nice thing to have as an investment even if you're living the city life. It's going to be much easier to sell country life if you can let a woman dip her toes in it rather than trying to find a wife while you're playing Davy Crockett.

Don't sleep on it too long, though. Appropriate parcels of land are going to sell like hotcakes the second lockdowns are lifted in full.

Someone like Laner should start a thread about investing in rural North American land for the purposes of building a getaway retreat. Personally I wouldn't even be able to tell you what brand of bear food has the best nutrition-to-cost value.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Well off people own an estate in the countryside. The city is for making money, and the countryside is for living life. This has been valid in 1500, and is still valid.
03-31-2020 05:00 AM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
In my experience, if you split your time between a city home and a wilderness cabin, your woman will most likely get bored with the cabin and stop going out there with you, unless she grew up in the country and enjoyed doing things in nature while she was growing up. I don't personally have a problem with that. She can stay in town and do her yoga with her friends if she wants to while I go out to the woods for a few days.

Also, if you're splitting time between the two abodes, then it puts less pressure on you to have electricity and running water at your cabin. One of the problems with wilderness cabins, from what I've heard, is that they often get broken into by weirdos and feral people hiding out in the sticks. If you have alternative energy at your cabin, such as solar panels, a windmill, or a hydro source, that means you'll have expensive batteries and the like sitting around to tempt robbers. When you go out to the cabin, I guess you could take a portable battery and solar array with you if you need to power/recharge your phone or laptop. If you're going to run power tools out there, however, as Laner mentioned, you're probably going to need a power supply that is more robust, such as a generator or even be connected to the grid if you're not too far out in BFE.
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03-31-2020 12:55 PM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
(03-31-2020 12:55 PM)C-Note Wrote:  In my experience, if you split your time between a city home and a wilderness cabin, your woman will most likely get bored with the cabin and stop going out there with you, unless she grew up in the country and enjoyed doing things in nature while she was growing up. I don't personally have a problem with that. She can stay in town and do her yoga with her friends if she wants to while I go out to the woods for a few days.

Also, if you're splitting time between the two abodes, then it puts less pressure on you to have electricity and running water at your cabin. One of the problems with wilderness cabins, from what I've heard, is that they often get broken into by weirdos and feral people hiding out in the sticks. If you have alternative energy at your cabin, such as solar panels, a windmill, or a hydro source, that means you'll have expensive batteries and the like sitting around to tempt robbers. When you go out to the cabin, I guess you could take a portable battery and solar array with you if you need to power/recharge your phone or laptop. If you're going to run power tools out there, however, as Laner mentioned, you're probably going to need a power supply that is more robust, such as a generator or even be connected to the grid if you're not too far out in BFE.

While its a nice thought, its also 2020 in the age of social media. Constantly leaving your woman alone for a few days at a time while you go out to "play in the woods"(woman think) instead of spend time with her, may lead her to doing monkey double back flips with some guy in her yoga class. Of course theres also a good chance that won't happen but we all know people who have been burned that way before.

Granted I think hypothetically a woman who would choose to stay in the city alone than go embrace nature in the woods with her spouse and escape the clown world for a bit is a problem in of itself to begin with.
03-31-2020 04:05 PM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
I think it should go without saying that one needs to do research into zoning and building regulations. Buying land has one of the biggest potentials for scams. So be aware.

In Canada, one way people seem to be able to get some upside to both city and rural living is in a recreational community. You buy a little tiny lot, put up a little tiny cabin, and share in the rec opportunities in the area. I used to spend time in one that was built by firefighters, so everyone pretty much got along. It was waterfront, which in Canada is INSANELY expensive, so this is a way for guys to get that access without the millions of dollars.

For guys thinking their woman won't want to spend time out there; They will if you have kids. If you don't, then they better like chores, reading and landscaping. And if you do have kids, they better like that stuff still because tinkering around is just what you do. I know some guys who have trouble getting their woman out to the cabin, but when I see their cabin I understand why. Its just a particle board skidshack with a shitty stove and poly windows. It has some cheap chairs and big fire pit where it becomes instantly clear that its just a place for guys to get shitfaced and eat fire cooked meat.

The best run cabin I go to is run well. Some guys get protective when they buy a property, thinking that everyone is using them for their place. But you should want that. When you know some friends are coming by, put up the weekend chore list. Have tools and supplies ready and get to work. I've built docks, welded up a gate, ran some solar hot water, demo'd, burned brush and cut trail at this guys place. All done while having a laugh and drinking some beers. His cabin is the best by far, and everyone feels a part of it. Compare that to a guy by himself raking up brush for two days before heading back to the city for another week.
03-31-2020 05:07 PM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Every extreme has equal downsides. I think a person should aim to find some balance in life. The vision of living off grid, in the wilderness with a woman you love seems very satisfying when you imagine it but is somewhat naive in my opinion. Good luck with finding a woman who will be OK with staying away from people month after month. Their minds are not designed for that. Women don't have enough willpower to endure such thing.

A healthy balance would be to live in the country but within the community of a local village or something similar. Almost every human being has an intrinsic need to be a part of some tribe. It's what makes us stronger, it's what allows us to bond, to care for someone other than your family, to be productive in a meaningful way. There is a great deal of fulfilment to be achieved this way.

A local community is a healthy environment for raising kids and it allows your woman to be active socially. It significantly lowers the risk she will one day burn down with rancour and leave you. Look for a peaceful place with active church and down-to-earth people. Being an outsider you'd have to start from scratch and slowly gain their trust. Once you're part of the community you can start to grow some proper roots. Have a family. Eventually you get old and die but this way there's good chance it will be life well spent.

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03-31-2020 05:14 PM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
I'm working on creating a community - starting with 2-4 families and expanding from there - that's about 20 minutes outside a medium-sized city. Then you've got the best of both worlds - access to the city for when you need it, but rural living (NYC and SF and such cities you have to go a lot further out, but a smaller city you can honestly drive 20 minutes outside the city limits and be in farm country). And, you've got the local community started - a few families for children to play together and so everyone's not just alone. Over time, build it up to ten families maybe. A big cul-de sac with houses and farm land out behind them.
03-31-2020 08:09 PM
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Living in the country is more expensive in some areas, but in a lot of areas, you're trading off commute time and personal handyman time for access to rural living.

Make sure you have a career with the option to work from home, and make sure you have a competitive career skill in general, and it's probably possible to live out in the country. An RVF guy can probably place himself in that situation in three years if he's not there right now. A lot of skilled trade jobs are suitable. I know a guy with his own tow truck business who is living the dream in a mountainous area, which he achieved a few years after moving to this state.

As for wives and family, even if if you're in the third tier county outside a metro area, your county probably has a school district, a local town, and local churches. Find a wife who's interested in that lifestyle, then make a bunch of babies, and make sure you can afford for them to have a presentable house, and cars, and be there with them for local school, church, and community activities. Be a leader in the community. If you can do these things, you're probably all set.

Granted, this part is harder, but there are people making it happen, so you just have to figure out what they are doing right, and play to win.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
This thread may have subsided a little. Some people here sided with the Landowner and not the renter. I would do the same if I owned properties, likely. However I don't so I tend to side with the renter. I'm a home owner now, but I feel like a renter ... to explain ...

I bought a home but the lesbian two (2) town-home units down has a male pit bull that she rescued. That dog barks at deer through 10 pm sometimes...

Do you know how much I paid for this house? Too much ... for this garbage. That same rental unit two doors down has a Commercial HVAC unit installed that bangs or pops loudly at all hours of the night (It's been doing this for maybe 8 years, we need to get the HOA to do something about it, actually, but always when you mention something those HOA power hungry goons want you to commit to 10 years of micro managing service).

We spoke to the Slum-lord landlord about the HVAC unit only to be brushed off.

For the amount of money that I paid for this house, in another State, in a nice area I'd be living like a modern day King.

Recently, we had another set of Renters at a different unit causing problems, thank God in heaven they moved out because of a flooded basement. I literally felt like I was in the ghetto (white, black or brown ghetto) or Prison. There were thugs in that house and, separately, a family, thug husband and RN wife. They did drugs on the back deck. They once broke into my car, good thing for alarm systems. They had an Afro-wearing Latino guy that would walk around in pink slippers and a robe outside. Mind you, all while talking on his cell phone on the sidewalks, cussing out his Baby mama "Bring me my *&%$^ kids, B -- itch."

Maryland and Montgomery County loves their diversity. DIVERSITY Inc.

Now, one of the most bizarre incidents was when I was living in an upscale Apartment complex. The rent started at $1,800 but within a few years it was $2,300 for me. And my buddy, neighbor, was too paying $2,500 for a larger two (2) bedroom.

Well, one pleasant evening at 8pm, I was attempting to take a nap, merely a nap. I'm awaken by a car driving down the boulevard next to my bedroom window, going 80 Mph. Literally, I felt this car pass by.

I wondered, why would some decent civilized Citizen of the United States of America, speed down a boulevard going 80 mph?

Well, it wasn't anything civilized. I was either a Muslim or African, a Sri Lankan or Saudi... Take your pick ...
That guy had minutes or even seconds prior beheaded his wife. That's right, I learned by word of mouth or by the Police report that he cut her head clean off. Crazy right? Left the baby, his baby, with the dead mom's body and head. He left his baby as an orphan for life. Good thing he is in prison.

You see the liberal Politicians (doesn't matter race) live in Chevy Chase Maryland and/or Annapolis MD; so they Do Not Care one bit.

They actually all have 3 or 4 residences throughout the Mid-Atlantic, these Politicians. They write laws that say there will be no Housing Projects as in other States; so they sprinkle low income housing in all neighborhoods and all new housing developments.

But where is this not allowed? Chevy Chase Maryland. See Chevy Chase Maryland is long established and better than Potomac and Bethesda, MD.; and Chevy Chase is where these wealthy politicians live.

For some reason God wants me living in God-less Nineveh, oh excuse me, Montgomery County Maryland.

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