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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
I wasn't evicted. You can only get an eviction on your record if you lost a court judgement. Of course that could still happen to me but I would fight it aggressively.

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They can mark me for not paying rent.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Hang in there, Roosh. The land purchase is a good idea. You'll be glad you did it. Look long and hard; get something you'll enjoy.
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Not to downplay the situation, Roosh, but in all honesty, at this point in time, is a landlord not going to rent to you because of some eviction or late rent payment? Or is it more likely they'll Google your name, find some of the nonsense that has been written about your over the years and politely decline? Who cares about that kind of stuff at this point?

If you can hold out for a few months living with family, there should be some attractive real estate deals (to include residential land) available in the near future.

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Ah, quality American construction. Drywall is sub-standard third world shit. I've been saying it forever.
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
My Italian tenant just left (he worked internshi as a receptionist in a 5 star hotel. Which according to him is dead. Completely empty). I offered him this month rent but he had to go back to Italy to take care of his sister and girlfriend. If things get better he might come back.
I have no idea how can a landlord risk losing a paying tenant in this moment. Everything points to a recession. Is the landlord a woman? Or young who received an inheritance?
The restoration might even up the monthly rent value after your lease termination.

Anyway someone said they don’t go after commercial tenants. Commercial tenants are different than residential because are business people. And have lawyers on retainer. So you know they were problematic. I never rent to companies even when they have good record.

Knew this old landlord owned bmany buildings which would go after tenants even if they had given 3 month notice. Normally tenants would lose the papers and proof of landlord termination notice. The tenant would pay for the 3 months.
When terminating your rental. Follow steps and keep papers. Your landlord is irrational.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Good luck Roosh.

I've re-thought my original negative reaction to Linux's suggestion of the great smoky mountains/gatlinburg suggestion, given the mindset that I was thinking about mainly residential properties.

Vacation oriented rental properties, anywhere, have got to be a ghost town with all of these shut downs. You may be able to score yourself a very good deal, in a very nice area that will have very few people.

I just looked at some of the resorts that I am familiar with in the smoky mountains for example and they are prices at a 50-75% less than their usual rates, and this is during spring break when they are usually double their normal rates.

your mountain, could become and even better mountain.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Apparently that’s not the case and the rentals are full of long term rich people rentals.
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
I would encourage you to buy a much larger piece of land for several reasons.

First, a half acre won't give you much privacy. You are basically in the suburbs. An aspect of this is higher taxes, property values, proximity to congestion etc.

Second, you can't do much with a half acre. You might have a garden, but not enough to live on or pasture, etc.

Third, there is an unseen aspect to living in rural areas that outsiders don't get. Rural areas by definition are remote so opportunities like jobs are limited. There is an underclass with not a lot to lose and things like drug addiction and petty crime can be rampant. The fact that your house was a former crack house, and your landlord may have intentionally hid dangerous toxins, does not surprise me. The subclass in rural areas are ready to take advantage of you if you let them. Hell, that's really true anywhere but the lack of opportunity in rural areas gives them greater incentive. The bigger piece of property you get the less likely you are living among the subclass.

Property values are going to be correlated to proximity to things like jobs, transportation, and services like internet, city water, and electricity. If you move too far out, you end up with the chore of having to solve access to some of these things. Everything is a tradeoff. Usually, broadband internet falls off first, then city water, then electricity. Sometimes if you have a good wireless connection you can get on the internet via a hotspot but that will limit you to the most expensive wireless companies and is a hit or miss solution. If a parcel does not have electric connected to it, even if the utility is willing to bring power to it, this can be very expensive. A parecel with no access to electricity will be very inexpensive.
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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
^Buying land does appear, at first, to be the most frugal way to get into owning your own home. And I'm sure it is, if you are careful and know what you are doing. There are a lot of things you need to know.

  1. Does the land perk?
  2. Cost of permits
  3. Hard to get a mortgage for land.
  4. How much of the work can you do yourself
  5. Local building codes
  6. Cost of clearing land and install driveway and footings
  7. Water, power, sewer, gas, internet installed
  8. Flood risk.
  9. Right of way and easements/access
  10. Crazy toothless hillbilly mafia

These are all just off the top of my head. Any of these can either cost many thousands to mitigate or can outright shut you down. I've researched some about buying land and building my own house but I am by no means an expert.

I'm sure it would be very rewarding if you can navigate the pitfalls. But it does make buying and repairing an existing house seem much less risky.

I've always enjoyed doodling and sketching out houses and even entire properties at times. Recently I've been watching video from Artisan Tony. He does livestreams of him working doing computer sketchups for his customers. With 40 years of building experience his videos are very informative.

Artisan Tony hates shipping container homes. In this video he shows how you can build a better living space for less than a shipping container home.



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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Shipping container homes are indeed a bit over-hyped (I've never liked the idea that a loose wire could electrify my entire house) but the main benefit is that you can literally dump a couple of them on a flat patch and have a roof over your head while you work.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Quote: I'll buy 1/2 acre of land and build a shack.

I think this would be a dream project (although you’ll want more land for sure). Check out “Handmade Houses with Noah Bradley”:

https://handmadehouses.com/

He shows how to build a traditional American log cabin. A very classic look for Virginia and Appalachia.

They can also always be expanded later into larger homes, just like the pioneers did.

Hipster tiny houses are not good on a $/square foot basis.

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(03-25-2020 09:24 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Shipping container homes are indeed a bit over-hyped (I've never liked the idea that a loose wire could electrify my entire house) but the main benefit is that you can literally dump a couple of them on a flat patch and have a roof over your head while you work.

For me, it's mainly the dimensions that make them unsuitable for a living space. Maybe where you are humidity isn't a concern, but there are many other reasons they're a poor choice for a living space.

I have seen them integrated into modern house design where they added a certain interesting look (adjoining a second story deck with one long wall entirely removed and glass/ sliding doors installed) but it could more easily, and more economically, be done with normal modern construction methods.

Something like this

[Image: 25k-container-home2.jpg]

If you need a place to lay your head, while building the house, throw up a 12' x 16' shed before you begin constructing the house.

Better to have a well built shed after the house is built than an ugly metal box. They're not even more secure once you cut windows and doors in them. Even without penetrations, they're only as secure as a padlock.
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(03-25-2020 10:21 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  ...
Hipster tiny houses are not good on a $/square foot basis.

They are when you're above the snow line and the heating bill/firewood harvesting comes due.

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(03-25-2020 10:34 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(03-25-2020 10:21 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  ...
Hipster tiny houses are not good on a $/square foot basis.

They are when you're above the snow line and the heating bill/firewood harvesting comes due.

Big difference between a "tiny house" and a small normal person house. The house in the video above is 480 square feet. Thats pretty small but you could live in it without feeling too cramped, so long as you arent a hoarder
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What about prefabricated houses? It's something in between building a house from scratch and settling for a shipping container.

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Yeah shipping containers are awful as far as having to insulate them, etc.

Pre-fab requires a big crew and a crane.

If you want to use modern methods (stick built) and are concerned with minimizing heating costs (very tight envelope, thick insulation), check out Matt Risinger’s channel on YouTube.

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RE: Looks like I have to move off the mountain (landlord trouble)
Shipping containers are more labor - cutting, then you still need to frame the inside...which negates the point.
Cheaper to build standard frame home, size it for your lumber size and minimize cuts and waste.
Prefab can be good but like tiny home you pay excess for convenience.
Just build 500 sq ft for $30k and add to it as needed. Sit with architect to if need be.
If you keep it small, you can get away with slab versus a labor and $$$ intensive foundation
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(03-25-2020 11:18 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  What about prefabricated houses? It's something in between building a house from scratch and settling for a shipping container.

My opinion FWIW is that if you're not planning on going totally off grid then building from scratch in the sticks is a very dicey option. At least if you buy a house no matter how crappy, it either has electricity/proper-internet or it doesn't. No ugly surprises to be had down the road when you've already paid to have the building site leveled only to find out that some bureaucrat has changed his mind and they're not going to run fiber optic cable up your road anymore.

For someone like Roosh renovation might make more sense if he can find a place with solid basics that needs a bit of TLC. You have electricity, phone (hopefully decent internet), and most importantly you don't need to mess around with permits.

If I were in Roosh's position I would be looking for a fixer upper on a small parcel of land near state forests he could access. Large parcels of land mean a lot of upkeep that requires $pecialized equipment and if you're not planning on going full-self-sufficient it's just not worth the hassle. Give me a single acre with a house at the back of the lot and a long driveway any day.

The good thing about fixer uppers when you're a bachelor is that you can concentrate on one room at a time and leave the rest of the house alone until you get to it.

Best of all there's no dicking around with getting permits and dealing with bureaucrats.

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Pre-fab really isn't necessary if you go with a simple design. The small house in the video, is a very simple build and is sized so that there is not a lot of cuts and waste. It has a very simple roof which saves a lot of work and would be easy for anyone to build. Additionally, the tools required would probably only be about $300, or $450 or so if you needed a generator and cords.

A simple 8' or 10' ladder and obviously blueprints or drawings would be needed as well. Big box hardware stores have home kits that will have basically everything you need, material wise, you will need a circular saw for cutting studs/rafters/plywood/osb.

I used to work in construction and have some framing experience, but really its pretty easy to follow the drawings if you take it step by step.
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(03-25-2020 11:47 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(03-25-2020 11:18 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  What about prefabricated houses? It's something in between building a house from scratch and settling for a shipping container.

My opinion FWIW is that if you're not planning on going totally off grid then building from scratch in the sticks is a very dicey option. At least if you buy a house no matter how crappy, it either has electricity/proper-internet or it doesn't. No ugly surprises to be had down the road when you've already paid to have the building site leveled only to find out that some bureaucrat has changed his mind and they're not going to run fiber optic cable up your road anymore.

For someone like Roosh renovation might make more sense if he can find a place with solid basics that needs a bit of TLC. You have electricity, phone (hopefully decent internet), and most importantly you don't need to mess around with permits.

If I were in Roosh's position I would be looking for a fixer upper on a small parcel of land near state forests he could access. Large parcels of land mean a lot of upkeep that requires $pecialized equipment and if you're not planning on going full-self-sufficient it's just not worth the hassle. Give me a single acre with a house at the back of the lot and a long driveway any day.

The good thing about fixer uppers when you're a bachelor is that you can concentrate on one room at a time and leave the rest of the house alone until you get to it.

Best of all there's no dicking around with getting permits and dealing with bureaucrats.

This is solid advice. To add, it's easier to get a mortgage for a house. Have a home inspector check for termite/water damage.

House flippers generally shy away from any houses that need roof or electrical work because those jobs can be like opening a barrel of monkeys. Everything else should be fairly straight forward and you can take your time.
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I gave thought to electrical for a data-sheet I was writing and considered that if you could bargain the price WAY down due to faulty wiring then the easiest start point would be to get an electrician to sever everything at the fuse box and then wire you a single decent array of sockets near your front door (or what-have-you). That little job wouldn't cost much.

Then run your essentials via extension cords until you were either moneyed enough to get the wiring fixed properly or confident enough to do it yourself.

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You can accomplish a lot with ISO containers. This build featured in "Grand Designs" a few years back:

https://metalbuildinghomes.org/grand-des...k-bradley/
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Personally if an electrician installed a new breaker box and ran any 220V lines, I'd be confident enough to run everything else following diagrams. Most would not even attempt to replace a bad outlet though. It also can require a lot of drywall repairs and it might be better to basically gut the house at that point. IE: a barrel of monkeys.

I guess it all depends on your skill/ comfort level. Around here most men will not even consider buying a house if it would require even a weekends worth of simple repairs. Even 10 year old homes are competing with all the new construction going up everywhere. Lots larger than an acre are hard to come by cause they get snatched up developers with deep pockets, and plans/connections to build multiple homes on the site.
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(03-23-2020 08:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 08:07 PM)Lace em up Wrote:  You might consider signing another lease before the landlord has a chance to ding your credit report with an eviction. Not saying he will or even can, but something to consider.

After this experience, I don't want to ever rent again. I'll buy 1/2 acre of land and build a shack.

I was on my way here to suggest the same thing. Building your own house would be a tremendously satisfying experience. If you're looking for a religious ascetic-type lifestyle, this would fit the bill for that also. People I've known over the years who built their own houses, with minimal professional help, usually got it done in about a year. You might need more than 1/2 acre, however, to make sure you have enough room for the house and to have a place to park your car and some yard.

I guess an alternative would be to buy a pre-fabricated "tiny house" and have it shipped to and installed on 1/2 acre. I think you're likely looking at about $20-30K in outlay for something like that, not including the cost of the land purchase.
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