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(03-17-2020 09:12 AM)Blaster Wrote:  And personally, while I think this shit is going to be bad, I predict that the US is in a much better position to handle a pandemic than most of Europe. We have almost 3 times more ICU beds per capita than Italy and France, 5 times more than the UK. I think Canada is on par with Italy and France. Lower population density may help slow the spread of the virus.

A health system heavily-converged by Social Justice, staffed by H-1B Visa workers with their own tribal in-group preferences? I warned a couple of years ago that this would be a problem in the medical field if Trump didn't nip it in the bud. He didn't, because Chabbad Jews also believe in Social Justice - they believe God created the world imperfectly and that we get humans get to 'become god' by repairing the world. Note that this is an inversion of what Christians believe: that God can't create anything imperfect, and you're in a fallen, shadow world, damaged by sin, and this life is an illusion meant to be detached from, and suffering embraced as a means of spiritual perfection.

This is why Trump promotes multiple homosexuals in his cabinet, and the US encourages the spread of sodomy in foreign countries. Chabbad believes that man knows better than God, and can fix what God can't. If you study their teachings and websites, they are also heavily-tied up with the Kaballah - the mystery babylon religion - which they share with Freemasonary, which Trump is surrounded by the signs of. This is why Trump Tower has an inverted triangular grove of trees on its facade, 6 trees per side, pointing towards the earth. He's doing what Merkel does with his hands. Understand that part of Freemasonary is revealing what is hidden: they warn you.

Head over to Chabbad.org. Read their websites. Find out what they actually believe in. I find the Rabbi's exhausting - they say very much without saying anything - the complete opposite of Contemplative Religious Catholics, who transmit deep meaning with very little words.

I once asked a Carmelite Priest about my inability to meditate, when the dark night hit:

"I can no longer meditate".

He wasn't phased. "Don't pray as you ought. Pray as you can."

... and he went on his way.

I thought on this for the next few hours, then realised he was right. With months of further study and experience, I understand he was *really* right. He wasted no more words than were needed, which is what you'll find with mystic revelations: you are only given exactly as little as you need for clarity. The messanger doesn't want to hang around, and become your regular friend. Read how efficient the Annunciation is.

My observation is, for Jews, their religious writing seems to be about arguing to muddy the truth - they're less interested in answering the question than elevating themselves by dancing around it. I remember reading somewhere in catholic theology that God named the Jews 'Israelites' because it means someone who 'argues / wrestles with God'.

So, I can read a Rabbi discussing at length whether Judaism is Socialist or Capitalist, and come to the end having no idea what they believe, other than belief in their own chosen status to decide for everyone else.

You can't, as a Christian, follow their teachings. Again, and again, what I see is Luciferianism (you are God), rather than Satanism (you worship the devil). Remember, Trump is on record as saying he doesn't believe in asking 'forgiveness' from Jesus, because he 'tries to be a good person'.
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(03-17-2020 07:36 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Ultimately the elite will use this to implement many measures which they were after for decades already. It does not even matter whether this thing is real, fake, over- or under-estimated. It's not behaving even remotely the same in most countries in the world.

The end result will be that the true ruling elite will have more laws in place to restrict your freedom, let you pay more, get rid of troublemakers much faster and more efficiently.

I saw an MSM article the other day predicting that all the airlines will go bankrupt within a few months. Governments will have to nationalize them, I thought. Then I immediately realized those governments would probably love that, and that the airlines probably won't be the only industry that fails and gets picked up by the state.

Then there's how the virus seems to mostly kill pensioners and social security recipients while sparing the younger worker bees who put money into the system. Unlike many diseases that are dangerous for both small children and the very old, this one doesn't affect the future workers much, it mostly takes out the generation that's getting monthly checks from the government.

I'm not a big tinfoil hat guy, but all of this is hard not to notice.

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And this fits perfectly with the climate change rhetoric of limiting flights.

Scorpion: "When the government and the media tell you that you should be very afraid, you should automatically be skeptical. When the government and media tell you that you should be very afraid and that you need to give up your rights and freedoms to stay safe, you should dig in your heels and resist. Because that's when they give the game away. That's when you can be sure that your fear is being weaponized against you."

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03-17-2020 03:23 PM
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I don’t normally indulge in conspiracy theories, but I came up with this one.

What if Trump’s trade war with chyna wrecked their economy, and they unleashed COVID-19 to provide cover. What if they’ve been putting out false economic data while their real numbers were imploding, jeopardizing the regime. So they unleashed the virus to blame the collapse on the pandemic, as a desperate attempt to stay in power.

Now their trying to blame the USA for the virus.

The behavior of the Chinese government has changed markedly since this pandemic blew up, like they are desperate and panicking.
03-17-2020 03:34 PM
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(03-17-2020 02:41 PM)Bury Zenek Wrote:  
(03-17-2020 11:05 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I would go, but the quarantine measures would mean, that I get fully tagged and put on a surveillance and no-fly no-travel no-nothing list at the same time. There are thus no volunteers. The list has instantly repercussions to anyone around me as well since they are put on the same list and you get police visits.

And you'll be on the list of those first in line to be raped with the vaccine.

Heh - I will be ordering the vaccine before it gets offered by the government and my vaccination documents will be impeccable.

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Fair to say Serbia will not be trying to join EU anytime soon. Very strong words by their president.

Looks like he's about to break into tears.

03-17-2020 04:17 PM
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The EU is an evil organisation.

The US is an evil empire.

We're the evil and I want us to stop being evil.
03-17-2020 05:48 PM
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Is he talking about a virus too small for the human eye to see.
Or is he referring to something else...?

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(03-17-2020 03:34 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I don’t normally indulge in conspiracy theories, but I came up with this one.

What if Trump’s trade war with chyna wrecked their economy, and they unleashed COVID-19 to provide cover. What if they’ve been putting out false economic data while their real numbers were imploding, jeopardizing the regime. So they unleashed the virus to blame the collapse on the pandemic, as a desperate attempt to stay in power.

Now their trying to blame the USA for the virus.

The behavior of the Chinese government has changed markedly since this pandemic blew up, like they are desperate and panicking.

Ok, let me indulge in another.

A bioweapon that is proven to cause havoc, but only kill older men.

It was released in Wuhan at the gathering of the military games, supposedly with many chinese generals, older men.

It was released in Qom, the iranian holy city, supposedly home to many of the mullahs, older men.

An american bioweapon aimed at taking out chinese and iranian leadership pr. Lex Trump killing Suleimani.
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I can say that almost all my friends have had a reality check. It makes you realize that you would be scrambling in a crisis.

The 'Prepper' or basic survival skills we realize are suddenly at a huge premium.

I don't remember in 2008 people prepping for Armageddon this way, everyone was just sad they were losing money.

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Im in a small town in the midwest USA. My neighbor is a middle aged woman who is overweight, smokes, has lung problems, diabetic, etc. She is going around and meeting lots of people, praying with them, etc. She is going to get the virus and pass it to everyone.

Her mother lives next door and she is elderly, usually sick and had pneumonia over the winter. She will get the virus from her daughter or the many people who I see visit there.

There will be a lot of elderly women die, and houses open up this summer.

After this global recession, job loss, all the elderly deaths and houses for sale, everything will go down in value.

Cash is king. In 12 months if you have a couple hundred thousand in cash, you might end up with a few houses to rent out.
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(03-17-2020 04:17 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Fair to say Serbia will not be trying to join EU anytime soon. Very strong words by their president.

Looks like he's about to break into tears.

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Crazy. This is like a movie. China may yet still end up on top after all this, or be done, there's no telling.

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(03-17-2020 06:02 PM)ball dont lie Wrote:  There will be a lot of elderly women die, and houses open up this summer.

In Italy, deaths among 80+ are 80% men, so elderly women are not as much at risk.
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Placing a travel ban within the U.S. would never work. That is something non-Americans need to understand. It is illegal to ban travel by US citizens within the US without due process. There is nothing in the constitution, even under a State of Emergency that would allow that. The president simply doesnt have that legal authority, and attempting it when at the same time the Democrats in the House were voting on overturning his travel ban with China would have led to him being impeached, again. Hell, some of our ``judges'' even blocked his travel ban on foreigners entering the US from terrorist hotspots and held up his action for weeks while the appeals dragged on.

This country is founded on the rights of its citizens, not the power of our elected officials. Our constitution was written as a restraint on the government, not the citizens and our president has to work within those articles of restraint. Right now governors are enacting emergency powers they dont even have, and when this is over, you will see a lot of reforms, mostly defining those powers are reigning them back in. If not for the panic created by our media, judges would be shooting down their actions left and right (some already have in places like Ohio).

Those of us who work in the hospitals are shocked at the reaction to this. The elderly die every day. It is what they do. If you work in a nursing home, you know that every flue season 50-70% of your residents wont see the spring. Yet we have completely lose our minds and have shut down the economy, crashed the stock market, ruined retirement portfolios and are watching our own hours and jobs be targeted to protect a part of the population that 70% wont live to see us dig out of the financial collapse caused by this anyway. Most of us simply do not understand it. We understand that politically you dont want people seeing waves of old people die. However, it just shows how uninformed the average person is, when they dont realize that while your 82-year old neighbor didnt die from COVID-19 in March, she died in April of heart failure.
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Doesn't look good on the economic front...

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In short, we’re screwed. While we can fight off the virus and potentially stave off mass casualties, the economic damage is the real issue. Back in 2008-2009 there was a *centralized* issue. The issue was that many mortgages were collapsing. So the solution was drastic and simple, lower rates and inject cash to the major banks to avoid a cascade of defaults. In this situation we have a distributed attack on the system. How do you bail out restaurants, airlines, hotels, malls, casinos, cruises and real estate all at once? The second issue is that the distributed default is not easy to contain, if someone runs a small business with $1M in revenue and $100K in profit, it means his monthly expenses are $75,000! This is a big issue. Even if it’s a single month at 0% interest… It would take the person 9 months to recover. Now scale this up and spread it across the united states. That is the current situation today.

Explanation: The more sophisticated readers can skip this part. In simple terms many companies operate with leverage. This means they have more debt than cash. So imagine you have $1M in debt and $200K in the bank to run your small business. Well.. if the business makes $1M per year, you’re probably okay. If the business has slim margins (restaurants, airlines, casinos, etc all have slim margins), then you’re in trouble if your annual income was low.

What happens? We can use a simple real estate example. Forget the “regular upper middle class consumer household” they are actually okay if they have a single mortgage. Go to the bigger picture. You have a 1,000 unit apartment complex in a major city like Las Vegas Nevada. Suddenly the entire casino industry shuts down for 2 months. This means people cannot pay rent. If they cannot pay rent that entire apartment complex now defaults. So you’re not looking at a regular mortgage default, you’re looking at a corporate debt default (even bigger).

What happens to “fund managers”: This gets even uglier. This week major hedge funds have fired Portfolio Managers. If you think all hedge funds are “hedged”… Well many are simply wrong. Even Citadel and Millennium have fired PMs this week and those are some of the better performing funds in a market neutral book (market neutral for newbies means they have to be long $100 of Stock A and short $100 of Stock B). In theory, by being long and short the same amount, you should be “flat” if the market goes down. As you can imagine with huge volatility this doesn’t work. Why? Well the books are levered up 20%!

Lets review in basic terms. If you want to own say Google, you have to be short something else in internet say Amazon (again this is not correct exactly but explains it well to regular readers). So you have $1M to invest. Well in order to generate returns you lever up the book. You have $5M to invest into this position. So lets say you short Amazon and go Long Google. $2.5M is short Amazon and $2.5M is long Google. Great. Assuming no wild swings, you will outperform if internet stocks go up and google does better than amazon. If internet stocks go down and Amazon goes down more than google, you’re set!

Seems fool proof. Until? 20% swings. Look at stocks in the S&P 500 and you will unlikely ever see this ever again (we hope) over the next 20 years. It could get worse as we don’t think we’re anywhere near the bottom. That said, a 20% move would force you to LIQUIDATE that google position. That is absolutely crazy. Since you’re 5x leveraged if you don’t have money to support the margin call, they force cell the asset… You’d think it ends there? No. It gets worse.

Now imagine while this is happening, you have had 5 years of record performance (Citadel and a few other funds are up substantially the last 5 years using this long=short construct). Now you get people calling “i need to pull out $5M since my business is getting crushed” from wealthy clients. So not only do you have to deal with the margin calls, you now have to begin selling assets to cover the $5M redemption (redemption is finance speak for customer asking for money back).

Welcome to what we’re seeing today. We won’t even go through the Oil fiasco as that’s too painful to even write. Texas is going to suffer if numbers stay as low as they are (oil prices) and we’ll leave it at that.

Fed Policy Out of Bullets: Since interest rates have been low for so long, the interest payments were easy to hit. If you take $1M loan at 2%… That’s only $20K a year! Incredibly easy to find a way to generate profits of just 2% on $1M of capital (so everyone said…). Then you have a strange event like this, a complete out of the blue viral severe pneumonia. Suddenly those business that were making profits due to cheap debt, borrow at 2% and get 4% returns… are borrowing at 2% and seeing – 50% “returns”. Leverage cuts both ways.

If you believe -50% is not feasible we suggest you look at real estate or casinos as good examples. You have a sudden revenue drop to zero for at least a quarter (we doubt it’s that short), and you’re looking at $0 revenues and hundreds of millions in losses. Unless you fire people of course… which is why layoffs are occurring immediately. Remember the small business example set above, if you have zero revenue, you have to borrow to cover that month of expenses. Now imagine that monthly payment is $50-100M not $50K… Now you see how hard it is to “get that money back” with future earnings.

Since we live in unprecedented times, the Fed is attempting to help create “liquidity”. This means all of those margin calls are being funded with 0% interest rate money. Also. The government intends on giving individuals money straight to their bank accounts (sending them checks!). While this is fine for now, it doesn’t solve the long term problem. If trillions of dollars of revenue goes to zero… expenses were paid with 0% debt… How long does it take to repay the debt? We don’t know. But. We’ll say it is likely a very very very long time. If you want us to guess, unless there is a miracle, you could see 3-5 years before real growth and pay down is seen. This is simply a guess based on the environment continuing through Q3. If the virus does come back in Q4… all bets are off as thousands of business depend entirely on holiday season earnings (not to mention skiing in the winter).


The Fed had two choices: 1) take rates to zero – Check and 2) start printing money – check. This is a bandaid but we’re now building a massive debt burden even if it as 0% interest. Also. It assumes that everyone returns to “normal” when we get through this mess (doubtful, again an opinion). So you have a cascading debt load, consumers can’t pay bills, those companies are levered up, they can’t pay the debt, they get 0% debt, they have to pay all that debt back with future cash flows. You can see the issue.

“Just print money”? This definitely will help. We’ll actually go on a limb and say that’s better than the debt idea for now. We know the crypto community will hate that comment but it sure beats seeing people unable to pay for food. You’re better off with the second option which leads to? Hyperinflation or even Stagflation. If you print too much money, prices keep going up and people are still unemployed creating a massive issue – stagflation.

So there you have it. Two choices: 1) push out the pain again with 0% debt and pray the business environment goes back to normal quickly or 2) give people money to prevent default and risk asset price inflation. By the way, we mean “give people money” literally. As in sending checks in the mail.

What Do You Do: First of all, thank you for all the emails the past two weeks from the people who actually took our advice. We’re thrilled you’re financially better off and mean that seriously as we don’t even care about being right anymore, better to see people avoid a massive blow up (having a month of food is huge in a lockdown). What you should do is much of the same. We’re in markets that are likely going lower (opinion) and if we’re wrong and there is massive printing leading to inflation, you still hold some stocks from way back in 2012-2016 so the cost basis is 50-60% lower. So you’re good to go.

Instead any more you get you have to keep it simple. 1) retain 12 months of cash on the books at all times, 2) all income you get you want to buy “store of value” this is gold, crypto etc. While people believe the store of value narrative is gone.. it isn’t. Re-read the section on margin. If people had billions of dollars levered up 10x or more, it means a 10% price drop would liquidate all crypto investors immediately. That is what you saw. Same with gold. While gold investors are less levered up. Investors have to sell gold to fund their losing positions. Any time leverage continues and margin calls ramp up… this means everything goes down temporarily and volatility spikes.

Since we have to give a recommendation now, the easiest one is the same as a month ago. Keep cash balance up to 12 months of your expenses. Just focus on that and take your costs to zero (impossible but you get the picture). If you are already there and have 12 months or more, go ahead and buy store of asset products like crypto and gold.

In terms of your work there isn’t much you can do. If you’re in the Ad space, the vast majority of you should probably take spending to zero. Yes zero. Unless you’re in an industry where benefits are being seen today, just take your spending to zero if you’re already losing money. On the Career side of things, this is not the time to be “lazy” catch up on the news when you’re done and spend your time being helpful to your employer. Thank your lucky stars you’re still employed at this point.

Predictions of the Future: We *hope* for the best but prepare for the worst. Our “standard case” not worst case or best case is that this virus lasts for over 3 months. In addition, we think it comes back stronger in Nov-Feb time frame. We’re not being pessimistic, we’re simply looking at facts from prior corona virus cases. The last 6 of them never resulted in a vaccine so we don’t know why this one will suddenly be solved. The answer? We recommend you personally stay safe and if you’ve been acting paranoid keep that up for another 9 months or so. You will be laughed at today and it’s worth it. Better to be laughed at and take the risks to near zero.

In terms of industries we have some bad news: large gatherings (casinos, concerts, cruises etc.) are going to see long-term issues for at least a year after resolution. Why? There is just no mathematical way this is solved in a couple of weeks. To the low IQ people who said “this is just the flu”, “store of value is done for crypto and gold” and “will be back to normal quickly” it’s best to go ahead and delete all of those comments. They are incredibly uninformed. Even if the numbers get “better” in two weeks, you don’t want to have people come back together because it will just spread… AGAIN. This virus is asymptomatic which means you can catch it and have no symptoms. We lost control of where the virus is and by quickly going back to crowds you’re just going to spread it again.

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(03-17-2020 02:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  
(03-17-2020 09:12 AM)Blaster Wrote:  And personally, while I think this shit is going to be bad, I predict that the US is in a much better position to handle a pandemic than most of Europe. We have almost 3 times more ICU beds per capita than Italy and France, 5 times more than the UK. I think Canada is on par with Italy and France. Lower population density may help slow the spread of the virus.

A health system heavily-converged by Social Justice, staffed by H-1B Visa workers with their own tribal in-group preferences?

What difference does this make?

Unlike certain other industries, where moral hazard is common and executives can make casual decisions that have far-reaching ripple effects and not suffer or even really see any of the adverse consequences, or even fields like law that deal heavily in abstractions, the healthcare industry still, by and large, does their job. Healthcare workers stare reality in the face every single day, and can't afford to act on the social justice delusions (gender reassignment surgeons excepted). Even women who parrot social justice inanities on twitter in their spare time, when they're on the job they tend to just do their job. When there's a pneumonia patient in front of them that needs their help to survive, whatever bullshit they were talked about in discord 8 hours ago isn't relevant.

There are a lot of problems with the US healthcare system but being SJW-Converged is not a major one. At least, not yet. And yeah I'm sure if you try hard enough you can find some lone wolf racist killing white people because they're white, but that's not the norm.
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(03-17-2020 02:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  My observation is, for Jews, their religious writing seems to be about arguing to muddy the truth - they're less interested in answering the question than elevating themselves by dancing around it. I remember reading somewhere in catholic theology that God named the Jews 'Israelites' because it means someone who 'argues / wrestles with God'.

So, I can read a Rabbi discussing at length whether Judaism is Socialist or Capitalist, and come to the end having no idea what they believe, other than belief in their own chosen status to decide for everyone else.

You can't, as a Christian, follow their teachings. Again, and again, what I see is Luciferianism (you are God), rather than Satanism (you worship the devil). Remember, Trump is on record as saying he doesn't believe in asking 'forgiveness' from Jesus, because he 'tries to be a good person'.

Since God knew ahead of time what they would become since he has chosen them.

And the trouble that would be unleashed which you have explained at length in various threads

Why would said ethnic group be chosen by God in the 1st place?

Other than a deliberate hard mode as if choosing the most difficult ethnicity to deal with.

I don't see why a better people comparatively speaking couldn't be chosen.
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Congress is already sneaking through privacy stripping Bill whilst the Pandemic is raging:





Under the pretext of protecting children:
Quote:The Republican-controlled U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday held a hearing for a bipartisan bill that sponsors claim is an effort to force technology companies to combat online child sexual exploitation but critics warn is actually "a sneak attack on encryption."

Since Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) unveiled the long-rumored Eliminating Abusive and Rampant Neglect of Interactive Technologies (EARN IT) Act (S. 3398) last week, digital rights advocates worldwide have come out forcefully against it.

Encryption is a process of protecting digital information by making plain language unreadable without a key; it is used to safeguard data that is both stored on devices and in transit. For example, communications applications often use end-to-end encryption (E2EE) to ensure that only an intended recipient can read a message.

"Encryption protects our airports, power plants, and the water treatment facilities that our children drink from," Evan Greer, deputy director of Fight for the Future, explained last week. "This bill sets the stage for backdoors in encryption that put everyone in danger. And it potentially opens the floodgates for widespread internet censorship in the process."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/0...encryption
03-17-2020 08:21 PM
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(03-17-2020 05:48 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  The EU is an evil organisation.

The US is an evil empire.

We're the evil and I want us to stop being evil.

Don't feel too bad. Most people that seek power are spiritually deranged and the larger and more powerful a government the more spiritually deranged leaders it attracts.

Even the so-called "good guys" on the Right seeking leadership are also spiritually deranged, being comprised largely of Zionists, warmongers and at best atheist libertarians.

As Bosch says, we fix ourselves to move beyond this world, not to clean the dirt itself. This is why I suspect monarchy is the least corrupt form of government. A powerful man will still often feel himself answerable to God but a mob (parliament/congress) can build a false sense of being able to dilute culpability for their actions among a larger body, much like the difference between a man being unwilling to execute another man unless he's part of a firing squad.

Think up. Not out.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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(03-17-2020 08:17 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  I don't see why a better people comparatively speaking couldn't be chosen.

Trying not to derail too much, but...the Old Testament Jews were chosen because they were so transparently bad. They are essentially a microcosm of all fallen humanity. An obstinate, sinful, proud, foolish, wicked, deceitful, greedy race. And yet from this race came the Savior. And ultimately even the Jews will turn back to God and Christ. It is a lesson in love and humility: that no sinners are beyond the grace of God. Even the worst of us can be redeemed. Without Christ we are no better than anyone else, even the Jews, because if there is anything good in us at all, it is only because God put it there. The Jews were not "chosen" in the sense of being honored for their wonderful attributes, they were chosen in the sense of being made an example of, so that we who came after might better understand the relationship of God to humanity as a whole. (see 1 Cor. 10:11).

"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.” - Romans 8:18
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(03-17-2020 06:39 PM)AlphaRN Wrote:  Placing a travel ban within the U.S. would never work. That is something non-Americans need to understand. It is illegal to ban travel by US citizens within the US without due process. There is nothing in the constitution, even under a State of Emergency that would allow that.
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Those of us who work in the hospitals are shocked at the reaction to this.
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Nobody in power cares about your constitution. See the bans on select fire assault rifles that have been in place for a very, very long time.

Meanwhile we have a highly repped and well respected forum member called Atlantaman who is reporting on the front lines of fighting this thing and his story is vastly different from your claims that hospitals are shocked at the over-reaction to all this.

I'll take his word over yours.

(03-17-2020 12:37 PM)Samseau Wrote:  ...
Blaming Trump, when he was the only one to do anything, is myopic and fails to examine the larger picture. Without offering an alternative, and merely hating, you're just wasting your time. And right now the alternatives to Trump are both 100% open-borders, one being a Commie ideologue and the other a globalist shill of the highest caliber.

Makes little sense to criticize something when there is no alternative.
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we don't have any other options, and we are lucky to have what little we do in our insanely corrupt USA.

This is incorrect. If everyone on the conservative side refuses to complain about Trump's weak response out of some misguided sense of political solidarity then he will think he's performing the will of his base and see no reason to alter his course. This goes back to what I said about American politics being a giant popularity contest with no concern to the wider issues in the world. "Get elected, try to stay popular, get elected again", has become the all consuming mantra with no regard for whether anything can be accomplished once they are elected.

You should absolutely be critical of Trump's weak response as loudly and as publicly as possible because it's the only way he can know he's not doing enough.

He should take stronger measures and if they get they get shot down by the public or the Dems then at least he tried to do the right thing. There's no point in winning a popularity contest in a leper colony.

Even childrens stories teach about this sort of thing. The emperor having a new garment crafted for him of "silk so fine only the refined can see it", being surrounded by so many yes-men including the very populace itself that he eventually marches down the street naked until a child who is not captive to the groupthink finally shouts "the emperor has no clothes!"

Trust the plan. Support Trump or the Dems will win. It's the same thing.

God demands of Man responsibility. God demands of Woman vulnerability. These are their curse and blessing alike. Libertianism is to Man as Feminism is to Woman.
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Great article from Richard Houck about globalism being the primary progenitor of this BS.
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"After all, if a nation is not charged with protecting its own, it is essentially illegitimate and should be seen as either an occupation government or a rule-making proxy for large corporations"

"Fundamentally, the cause of disruption in day-to-day life across Europe, the U.S., Canada, and other Western nations, is globalism and neoliberalism. The commitment to open borders and the free movement of people from place to place, along with the irrational deference to "the market," brought us here. "

" The full extent of the devastation caused by this epidemic is yet to be seen, but what is for certain is this: If nothing changes, there will be another. And another. And another. As it stands, there is nothing to prevent a disease that pops up in any corner of the globe from making its way right into your favorite bar, grocery store, your university, your parent’s or grandparent’s nursing home, or your child’s school."


https://www.patreon.com/posts/34975309
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(03-17-2020 07:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Doesn't look good on the economic front...

Quote:The Last Round of Bullets – Prepare for the Worst Hope for the Best

This content is from WallStreetPlayboys, who are normally very staid and easygoing people. One of their hobbies, in fact, is laughing at people who make silly dire economic predictions.
If they're worried, YOU should be worried. Stock the fuck up on savings.
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