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^ ok now there’s a conspiracy theory I can believe (soros bit).
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03-16-2020 07:17 AM
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My wife's friend - a top-certified accountant working for a major corporation - was just trying to explain to my wife that "this is not a big deal because 97% of people get through the disease just fine". We tried explaining to her that survival rate was actually the same thing the death rate, just stated in reverse to sound more optimistic, but she kept insisting that "no, you got it wrong, survival rate of 97% doesn't mean that 1 out of every 33 people will die" Huh

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Again, this is a very high IQ, well-read, well-educated person who has attended all the top schools and is considered the creme of society in terms of both wealth and status very sad

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(03-16-2020 06:59 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  
(03-16-2020 06:20 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  A few of the 'It's just the Flu' posts on social media from friends and colleagues are not going to age well. I almost feel sorry for them.

By the way, what do we think is going on in Africa with the low numbers? Just luck? Heat (dry and hot, rather than humid and hot), person-to-person transmission rather than surface to person (uv killing it?). I always figured Africa and India would get hit hard quickly with this stuff. I still consider this to be very early days of course.

africa is not very well connected to the rest of the world. It really takes a more connected place like North Africa/South Africa to get the virus there. But it'll eventually makes it way there.

French/Italian people or immigrants of Senegalese origin already brought the virus from Europe to Senegal. Same lockdown measures (schools closed, religious ceremonies cancelled etc), fortunately no death now.

Of course some irresponsible people arrived without signaling themselves as having coronavirus.

Personally I am working from home in France, supposedly there have been some cases in my (little, not very connected) city.

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According to experts I've heard, Africa is going to get hit big time and have ZERO chance of containing it. It will run rampant through the continent and it will be the single biggest threat of re-infection to the world. Remember that 41% of those with severe disease are under 50 years old and Africa has no capability to treat them.

Which means that come fall, Africa might be quarantined from the entire world, for the foreseeable future.
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Quote:Chinese media links coronavirus to US military lab


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The [Chinese] state-run Global Times has reported about a petition on the White House website urging the US government to release more information on the suspension of an infectious disease research lab under the Pentagon.

The Global Times noted that Chinese internet users and experts are calling for more information on whether The Fort Detrick laboratory was linked to the novel coronavirus, citing coincidental events between the lab’s closure and the outbreak of Covid-19.

It noted many English-language news reports about the closure of Fort Detrick were deleted recently, raising “suspicions over the lab's ‘relationship’ with the novel coronavirus”.
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The African population bubble, propped up by NGOs and Western do-gooders handing out food and medicine, is completely unsustainable and if left unchecked would eventually result in massive, uncontrollable migration into Europe. From this perspective, the pandemic could end up being a blessing in disguise for Europe if they can maintain a long-term pretense for sinking the boats.
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I just don't get the US-made-the-virus conspiracy theory. Considering how dependent the US is upon Chinese imports for pretty much everything, and the fact that it would likely take decades of concentrated effort to change that, it's hard to imagine it's really in America's best interests to cripple the economic output of a nation we're unfortunately dependent upon not just for consumer goods but raw materials. Especially when you don't get to play the hero by conveniently appearing with the vaccine in the nick of time, which has clearly already passed.

Maybe Trump and his cabal of alleged conspirators really are looking at an American industrial renaissance and self-reliance in twenty years, but I think they would prefer to have a good economy right now.

It's much more plausible that the virus is a Chinese bioweapon that escaped the lab.
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If weed promotes appetite.
What happens when they quickly burn through all their food & as a result, their toilet paper...?
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(03-16-2020 07:47 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  It's much more plausible that the virus is a Chinese bioweapon that escaped the lab.

This world is largely controlled by give or take 1000-5000 people at the top of world corporations/banks/institutions. I think that the same people who poison this earth with globohomo are standing behind this virus and it's their creation. But don't worry, while Bill Gates thinks he's safe in his bunker right now there's no place he can hide from God's eternal punishment.

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(03-16-2020 07:47 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  I just don't get the US-made-the-virus conspiracy theory.

The idea is that the US doesn't believe it can win a conventional or even nuclear war against China and thus has to attack it by other means.

Swine flu, avian flu, crippling chinese food production.

SARS with a strange preference for only East Asians.

Covid hitting just in time for Chinese New Years and in addition, right in the holy city of Iran.

Yeah, I believe it.

The US has a long list of using evil stuff in warfare. I've been to the Vietnamese Museum of American War Crimes. I've seen what Agent Orange does to unborn children.
03-16-2020 08:09 AM
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(03-16-2020 07:40 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  The African population bubble, propped up by NGOs and Western do-gooders handing out food and medicine, is completely unsustainable and if left unchecked would eventually result in massive, uncontrollable migration into Europe. From this perspective, the pandemic could end up being a blessing in disguise for Europe if they can maintain a long-term pretense for sinking the boats.

Now that would be terribly racist now wouldn't it.

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(03-16-2020 08:15 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(03-16-2020 07:40 AM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  The African population bubble, propped up by NGOs and Western do-gooders handing out food and medicine, is completely unsustainable and if left unchecked would eventually result in massive, uncontrollable migration into Europe. From this perspective, the pandemic could end up being a blessing in disguise for Europe if they can maintain a long-term pretense for sinking the boats.

Now that would be terribly racist now wouldn't it.

It's never the less true.

Corona virus is a stress test for ALL systems of governance around the world.

And the African system of complete corruption, blaming whitey and believing in witchcraft over science is probably not going to be very effective.
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Hey fellas, I am back safe and sound. I had a very long car ride and my back and butt are killing me! But my girl is safe with me and I had plenty of things to think about along the car ride.

Also, while driving, for every 100 cars I saw an Amazon prime truck along the highway. At the Newark Airport, I saw 5 Airplanes in total; utterly deserted. The economy is shifting hard to delivered goods and everyone is starting to stay home, except for the usual idiots.

The conspiracy that America started this virus makes no sense; otherwise we would have never let it spread to America or to Europe. This is a pathetic attempt by the CCP to deflect blame and avoid facing up to the fact that people have been warning about the Wuhan BSL4 for years:

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-the-c...ns-1.21487

Inside the Chinese lab poised to study world's most dangerous pathogens

Quote:A laboratory in Wuhan is on the cusp of being cleared to work with the world’s most dangerous pathogens. The move is part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025, and has generated much excitement, as well as some concerns.

Some scientists outside China worry about pathogens escaping, and the addition of a biological dimension to geopolitical tensions between China and other nations. But Chinese microbiologists are celebrating their entrance to the elite cadre empowered to wrestle with the world’s greatest biological threats.

“It will offer more opportunities for Chinese researchers, and our contribution on the BSL‑4-level pathogens will benefit the world,” says George Gao, director of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Key Laboratory of Pathogenic Microbiology and Immunology in Beijing. There are already two BSL-4 labs in Taiwan, but the National Bio-safety Laboratory, Wuhan, would be the first on the Chinese mainland.

The lab was certified as meeting the standards and criteria of BSL-4 by the China National Accreditation Service for Conformity Assessment (CNAS) in January. The CNAS examined the lab’s infrastructure, equipment and management, says a CNAS representative, paving the way for the Ministry of Health to give its approval. A representative from the ministry says it will move slowly and cautiously; if the assessment goes smoothly, it could approve the laboratory by the end of June.

BSL-4 is the highest level of biocontainment: its criteria include filtering air and treating water and waste before they leave the laboratory, and stipulating that researchers change clothes and shower before and after using lab facilities. Such labs are often controversial. The first BSL-4 lab in Japan was built in 1981, but operated with lower-risk pathogens until 2015, when safety concerns were finally overcome.

The expansion of BSL-4-lab networks in the United States and Europe over the past 15 years — with more than a dozen now in operation or under construction in each region — also met with resistance, including questions about the need for so many facilities.

The Wuhan lab cost 300 million yuan (US$44 million), and to allay safety concerns it was built far above the flood plain and with the capacity to withstand a magnitude-7 earthquake, although the area has no history of strong earthquakes. It will focus on the control of emerging diseases, store purified viruses and act as a World Health Organization ‘reference laboratory’ linked to similar labs around the world. “It will be a key node in the global biosafety-lab network,” says lab director Yuan Zhiming.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences approved the construction of a BSL-4 laboratory in 2003, and the epidemic of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) around the same time lent the project momentum. The lab was designed and constructed with French assistance as part of a 2004 cooperative agreement on the prevention and control of emerging infectious diseases. But the complexity of the project, China’s lack of experience, difficulty in maintaining funding and long government approval procedures meant that construction wasn’t finished until the end of 2014.

The lab’s first project will be to study the BSL-3 pathogen that causes Crimean–Congo haemorrhagic fever: a deadly tick-borne virus that affects livestock across the world, including in northwest China, and that can jump to people.

Future plans include studying the pathogen that causes SARS, which also doesn’t require a BSL-4 lab, before moving on to Ebola and the West African Lassa virus, which do. Some one million Chinese people work in Africa; the country needs to be ready for any eventuality, says Yuan. “Viruses don’t know borders.”

Gao travelled to Sierra Leone during the recent Ebola outbreak, allowing his team to report the speed with which the virus mutated into new strains1. The Wuhan lab will give his group a chance to study how such viruses cause disease, and to develop treatments based on antibodies and small molecules, he says.

The opportunities for international collaboration, meanwhile, will aid the genetic analysis and epidemiology of emergent diseases. “The world is facing more new emerging viruses, and we need more contribution from China,” says Gao. In particular, the emergence of zoonotic viruses — those that jump to humans from animals, such as SARS or Ebola — is a concern, says Bruno Lina, director of the VirPath virology lab in Lyon, France.

Many staff from the Wuhan lab have been training at a BSL-4 lab in Lyon, which some scientists find reassuring. And the facility has already carried out a test-run using a low-risk virus.

But worries surround the Chinese lab, too. The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times, notes Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Tim Trevan, founder of CHROME Biosafety and Biosecurity Consulting in Damascus, Maryland, says that an open culture is important to keeping BSL-4 labs safe, and he questions how easy this will be in China, where society emphasizes hierarchy. “Diversity of viewpoint, flat structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important,” he says.

Yuan says that he has worked to address this issue with staff. “We tell them the most important thing is that they report what they have or haven’t done,” he says. And the lab’s inter­national collaborations will increase openness. “Transparency is the basis of the lab,” he adds.

The plan to expand into a network heightens such concerns. One BSL-4 lab in Harbin is already awaiting accreditation; the next two are expected to be in Beijing and Kunming, the latter focused on using monkey models to study disease.

Lina says that China’s size justifies this scale, and that the opportunity to combine BSL-4 research with an abundance of research monkeys — Chinese researchers face less red tape than those in the West when it comes to research on primates — could be powerful. “If you want to test vaccines or antivirals, you need a non-human primate model,” says Lina.

But Ebright is not convinced of the need for more than one BSL-4 lab in mainland China. He suspects that the expansion there is a reaction to the networks in the United States and Europe, which he says are also unwarranted. He adds that governments will assume that such excess capacity is for the potential development of bioweapons.

“These facilities are inherently dual use,” he says. The prospect of ramping up opportunities to inject monkeys with pathogens also worries, rather than excites, him: “They can run, they can scratch, they can bite.”

Trevan says China’s investment in a BSL-4 lab may, above all, be a way to prove to the world that the nation is competitive. “It is a big status symbol in biology,” he says, “whether it’s a need or not.”

Nature 542, 399–400 (23 February 2017) doi:10.1038/nature.2017.21487

So my girl found this article while we on the road and I was describing to her the Zerohedge article that first pointed out this outbreak occurred 900 feet from Wuhan's BSL4 lab, apparently owned by George Soros at address 666...?

Fact is, all of these BSL4 labs are an arms race to develop the most powerful viruses that can cripple entire nations. There was little concern about worst case scenarios, and the voices of reason fell on deaf ears, as usual. On top of this, the Wuhan lab involved using lots of monkeys that can run around, bite, scratch, etc, who the hell knows what was going on inside of this place? Perhaps one of the researchers inside were infected by a renegade monkey and never told anyone, afraid of being punished by the terrifying CCP?

Already the CCP is trying to silence articles like the one above. Counter-articles like this one:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lance...9/fulltext

Claims that the genome structure of the COVID-19 is too 'discordant' to be a combination of multiple viruses, like HIV and SARS, but honestly, this seems like a weak argument to me because there is no reason why scientists couldn't merge random samples of viruses and try mutating them to see what results could be produced. They then could have accidentally created a super-virus without even realizing.

Anyhow, we are looking at the death of globalism. I've read accounts of expert traders who claim our economy won't recover for over 25 years or more. I believe them. I am looking for new jobs that involve delivery of goods and services. This is where things will be for the next few months. I am happy I decided to go get my girl when I did, I can feel the quarantines coming down any day now. Martial law seems extremely likely in the USA, something that has not happened since the Civil War? (150 years ago???)

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(03-16-2020 08:25 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  https://www.balkanweb.com/lajm-i-fundit-...ores-1800/

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Any info this could happen in Poland soon?

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Samseu, why would the chinese build a virus, SARS, that only infected East Asians?
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Coronavirus Australia: Queensland researchers find ‘cure’, want drug trial

Quote: A team of Australian researchers say they’ve found a cure for the novel coronavirus and hope to have patients enrolled in a nationwide trial by the end of the month.

University of Queensland Centre for Clinical Research director Professor David Paterson told news.com.au today they have seen two drugs used to treat other conditions wipe out the virus in test tubes.

He said one of the medications, given to some of the first people to test positive for COVID-19 in Australia, had already resulted in “disappearance of the virus” and complete recovery from the infection.

Prof Paterson, who is also an infectious disease physician at the Royal Brisbane and Women’s Hospital, said it wasn’t a stretch to label the drugs “a treatment or a cure”.

“It’s a potentially effective treatment,” he said.

“Patients would end up with no viable coronavirus in their system at all after the end of therapy.”

The drugs are both already registered and available in Australia.

“What we want to do at the moment is a large clinical trial across Australia, looking at 50 hospitals, and what we’re going to compare is one drug, versus another drug, versus the combination of the two drugs,” Prof Paterson said.

Given their history, researchers have a “long experience of them being very well tolerated” and there are no unexpected side effects.

“We’re not on a flat foot, we can sort of move ahead very rapidly with enrolling Australians in this trial,” Prof Paterson said.

“It’s the question we all have – we know it’s coming now, what is the best way to treat it?”

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Prof Paterson said positive experiences in the fight against coronavirus have already been recorded overseas, citing China and Singapore. His research team are confident they can start getting the drugs to patients in a very safe way on home soil.

“We want to give Australians the absolute best treatment rather than just someone’s guesses or someone’s anecdotal experiences from a few people,” Prof Paterson told news.com.au.

He said they hope to be enrolling patients by the end of March.

“And that way, if we can test it in this first wave of patients, we do fully expect that there are going to be ongoing infections for months and months ahead, and therefore we’ll have the best possible information to treat subsequent patients,” Prof Paterson said.

“That’s really our aim, to get real world experience in Australia.”

He said the trouble with the data coming from China was that it wasn’t really gathered “in a very controlled way”, given they were the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak at the time.

“Things were just chaotic,” Prof Paterson said.

“There were these emergency hospitals being built and the system really being very, very stretched.”

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A medical worker takes a swab from a previously recovered coronavirus patient in Wuhan on March 14, 2020. Picture: STR/AFPSource:AFP

One of the two medications is a HIV drug, which has been superseded by “newer generation” HIV drugs, and the other is an anti-malaria drug called chloroquine which is rarely used and “kept on the shelf now” due to resistance to malaria.

He said the researchers want to study them in a “very meaningful way” against the coronavirus to “try and alleviate that anxiety of Australians”.

“There have already been patients treated with these in Australia and there’s been successful outcomes but it hasn’t been done in a controlled or a comparative way,” Prof Paterson said.
The drugs would be given orally, as tablets.

Prof Paterson said patients would be asked to participate “as soon as they’re admitted” to hospital with the aim of beginning treatment “very early on in their illness”.

He said the research was sparked by Chinese patients, who were first given the drug in Australia, showing their doctors information on the internet about the treatment used overseas.

“Our doctors were very, very surprised that a HIV drug could actually work against the novel coronavirus and there was a bit of scepticism,” he said.

“That first wave of Chinese patients we had (in Australia), they all did very, very well when they were treated with the HIV drug.

“That’s reassuring … that we’re onto something really good here.”

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Patients are being tested for coronavirus across the world including in Seattle, Washington. Picture: John Moore/Getty Images/AFP
Patients are being tested for coronavirus across the world including in Seattle, Washington. Picture: John Moore/Getty Images/AFPSource:AFP

The RBWH Foundation has established a Coronavirus Action Fund. By Monday afternoon it had raised $30,000 of the desired $750,000 for the clinical drug trials and other related medical research.

“The trials will start as soon as funding is secured,” the fund states.

When asked why they had to put a call out money, Prof Paterson said they “want to give as many people in Australia access to this” and can’t take doctors away from their normal work.

“The reality is that doctors are going to need to be concentrating on their patients and we need to get a very strong research team across Australia that can make sure that all the Is are dotted and the Ts are crossed and make sure that it is a really high-quality study so that we can be really confident in the results,” he said.

“We did this with bushfires, this is an example where we’re reaching out to the public to put the financial support behind the study so it can get underway.

“Fifty hospitals have expressed interest in participating and we expect there may even be more to come.”


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In Australia our Chief Medical Officer has come out and said that basic mathematics says we're preparing for somewhere between 50,000 to 150,000 dead.

Even having realised the power of exponential growth, it's still a chilling number. If it goes to 100,000, which is the moderate (not worst, not best case - that's 50,000) that'll be more dead Australians than were killed in World War 1, World War 2, and the Vietnam War put together.

At least this time it won't be overwhelmingly men in the flower of their youth.

Of course, this is the same dickhead who isn't screaming at Scotty from Marketing to close the schools now. My guess is the fat, useless cane toads up under the Hills Hoist in Canberra are thinking it'll be all right until school holidays in 2 weeks time, and they'll just let the schools close naturally then. Fuckwit thinking.

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RE: The Coronavirus Pandemic thread III
My kids are staying at home. Sane parents will do likewise. The education department isn't exactly going to be sending bounty hunters out under these circumstances.

I'm fortunate to have another family in close contact who's also on the same page and we all agree that none of our kids are going to fail to launch in life because they missed two weeks of social justice studies.

Meanwhile the how and why regarding the origins of the virus is degrading from the status of trivia to irrelevance. We will never know the truth for sure and the vast majority of people will believe what they want to regardless of any evidence provided. We have the clowns in the Whitehouse insisting that it's not a bio-weapon as if they could possibly know that for certain, and the new narrative being floated is that we have to "stop China" before their shitty eating habits end all life on the planet.

Yes, that's as retarded as it sounds. But people are swallowing it hook line and sinker and there's very little anyone can do to talk sense into them.

And if you think it's bad now, wait until this pandemic has rattled them to their core. The ZOG will be able to convince them that China is responsible for everything from the mold in their shower to male pattern baldness.

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RE: The Coronavirus Pandemic thread III
(03-16-2020 08:35 AM)Bury Zenek Wrote:  
(03-16-2020 08:25 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  https://www.balkanweb.com/lajm-i-fundit-...ores-1800/

Curfew in all albania , forbidden to have a walk outside and leave home after 6PM until 6AM

Any info this could happen in Poland soon?

no info about this.
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RE: The Coronavirus Pandemic thread III
I strongly believe that Chloroquine and Zinc will be proven effective against this virus well before any vaccine comes into fruition.

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RE: The Coronavirus Pandemic thread III
I have a feeling shit is hitting the fan here soon.

I am heading back to my hometown about 6 hours from here. The Prime Minister of Canada has a big announcement at 1pm.

If they quarantine the cities I don't want to be stuck here. At the rate things are shutting down the only thing left is for people to panic. There is some truth in that as long as people are busy and in their routines they don't really look up. Once the routine ends people will change quickly.

I'll stop at the bank and try and pull some cash money out

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