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RE: Fare dodging on public transport
(03-04-2020 09:18 AM)Lee Harvey Pozzwald Wrote:  
(03-03-2020 11:00 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  I've been going on trains in Sweden lots of times in the last few years and there's been multiple multiple times where I've seen ticket inspectors who won't bother about migrants.

One time I bought a ticket second hand from a chick on Facebook and assumed it would be no problem.
But when I went on the train the ticket inspector made a big deal about it, that it didn't have my name on it.
So I said, "my girlfriend" bought the ticket for me and then they were trying to call this chick to verify it but she didn't answer the phone. So they claimed that I could have stolen the ticket from her (I was actually in a suit that time and didn't exactly look like a gypsie) and was threatening me with a big fine so I had to buy a much more expensive ticket even though I actually had a ticket.

Meanwhile I've seen them telling free-riding women "well, just remember to buy a ticket next or you will get a fine then".

And for example, a few months ago I was on the train and the toilet was occupied for ages so I told the staff. And low and behold, when they used the key to open the door, there were two migrants hiding there.
These two got into an argument with each other and were spitting in each others faces and yelling.

They didn't get a fine and just had to get off at the next stop (and probably just waited for the next train to do the same thing). The old lady told me that this was pretty much a weekly thing and I suppose she was too afraid to do anything against two loud Arab men. And apparently they don't think it's that much of a problem to call the police and catch them since most people are actually paying for themselves.

But it is like they can let migrants and women off for not even having a ticket but if a white man actually has a ticket but with another name on it, they will make a big deal about it. And at the same time, it is to a large degree white men like me who make public transport possible here through taxes.

So I'm actually starting to think "fuck it" too. It would be one thing if I saw them punishing these migrants but they don't. It's like the social contract has started to lose its meaning even though it meant something in the past.

Not only are you supposed to be paying to support public transport through taxes but also to be this cuck who pays for free-riding immigrants in multiple ways. On one level I think you could argue that you would probably do more good for society if you gave some money to a charity each time you free-ride instead of giving it to the state.

Did he get banned for saying that if the migrants free ride, he should be able to?

Undecided


I'm thinking because all his latest posts have been either controversial in nature and encouraging breaking the law ? I don't know though. Huh

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RE: Fare dodging on public transport
(03-04-2020 11:15 AM)joost Wrote:  I find this mentality a little repulsive. People thinking stuff is free or for grabs.

- Walmart make billions, let's steal stuff.
- Screw public transport! Middle finger to The Man!

Shareholders invest in Walmart expecting a return. Thanks to them Walmart is able to offer products for cheap, improving the lives of many. Margins are as low as it can be and cannot sustain constant theft.

Poor people benefit the most from public transport. Leeches don't know public transportation like train or subway requires a heavy investment and maintenance.


The easiest way to improve society would be to only allow tax payers to vote.

I think the argument you're looking for goes like this:

I the taxpayer follow all the rules, pay my full taxes and act in accordance with moral principals, but the migrants ( and capitalist grifters and politicians) break laws with impunity, don't pay taxes, and do not get penalized, even rewarded by the system for doing it.

My point, if there is one, is that more sane people go AWOL as the flawed system implodes.
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@Repo good reminder. I tend to project my own qualities onto anonymous strangers on the internet. Definitely some weirdos lurking

@LHP I meant bare minimum “I won’t screw you over”/basic honor/Golden Rule morality. A lot of laws of man are oppressive and unnecessary, like I don’t give a flying fuck if you smoke a plant or inject testosterone to improve your life. I don’t think things like that have any bearing on if you’re a good person or not. Theft, dishonesty or screwing people over are in a totally different category
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A: No
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RE: Fare dodging on public transport
(03-04-2020 11:21 AM)pitbullowner Wrote:  
(03-04-2020 09:18 AM)Lee Harvey Pozzwald Wrote:  
(03-03-2020 11:00 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  I've been going on trains in Sweden lots of times in the last few years and there's been multiple multiple times where I've seen ticket inspectors who won't bother about migrants.

One time I bought a ticket second hand from a chick on Facebook and assumed it would be no problem.
But when I went on the train the ticket inspector made a big deal about it, that it didn't have my name on it.
So I said, "my girlfriend" bought the ticket for me and then they were trying to call this chick to verify it but she didn't answer the phone. So they claimed that I could have stolen the ticket from her (I was actually in a suit that time and didn't exactly look like a gypsie) and was threatening me with a big fine so I had to buy a much more expensive ticket even though I actually had a ticket.

Meanwhile I've seen them telling free-riding women "well, just remember to buy a ticket next or you will get a fine then".

And for example, a few months ago I was on the train and the toilet was occupied for ages so I told the staff. And low and behold, when they used the key to open the door, there were two migrants hiding there.
These two got into an argument with each other and were spitting in each others faces and yelling.

They didn't get a fine and just had to get off at the next stop (and probably just waited for the next train to do the same thing). The old lady told me that this was pretty much a weekly thing and I suppose she was too afraid to do anything against two loud Arab men. And apparently they don't think it's that much of a problem to call the police and catch them since most people are actually paying for themselves.

But it is like they can let migrants and women off for not even having a ticket but if a white man actually has a ticket but with another name on it, they will make a big deal about it. And at the same time, it is to a large degree white men like me who make public transport possible here through taxes.

So I'm actually starting to think "fuck it" too. It would be one thing if I saw them punishing these migrants but they don't. It's like the social contract has started to lose its meaning even though it meant something in the past.

Not only are you supposed to be paying to support public transport through taxes but also to be this cuck who pays for free-riding immigrants in multiple ways. On one level I think you could argue that you would probably do more good for society if you gave some money to a charity each time you free-ride instead of giving it to the state.

Did he get banned for saying that if the migrants free ride, he should be able to?

Undecided


I'm thinking because all his latest posts have been either controversial in nature and encouraging breaking the law ? I don't know though. Huh

In his last post, he took the Lord's name in vain. I suspect that got him banned. It would be much simpler if reasons for banning were posted when it's not obvious.

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Is this what got the ban? If so pretty mild compared to the heavy cursing that everyone is doing.
Quote:HAHA. Oh God, my bad. Blush

Or was it the fan fiction he posted probably without being aware of what it was?

Quote: I am a senior Chinese military intelligence officer and I know the truth about the coronavirus outbreak. It is far worse than the media are telling you.

I am a Chinese citizen in Wuhan who occupies — or perhaps occupied — a high-ranking position in military intelligence. I am also a member of the Chinese Communist Party. As a senior official near the top of the Party, I have access to a great deal of classified information and I have been involved in many top secret government projects. I have a doctorate from a leading university in a western country, which is why I am able to write my account in English.

I have information that I believe could lead to the overthrow of my government. It is also relevant to billions of people outside of China, all of whom are now in existential peril.(..........)

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What do you guys think of this?


Or this one advising that you get inflected with corona immediately?

Quote:The thing is that you actually want to get the coronavirus EARLY.

You want to get it NOW.

Everyone will get it eventually - best get it now whilst supply chains are functioning, shops are filled with food and hospitals are functioning and not overwhelmed.

It will be a year before there is a vaccine.

Don't feel sorry for the people getting the coronavirus now. They are the lucky ones.

YOU will be part of the unlucky ones when you are lying on overcrowded hospital floors two months from now begging for medical attention.

Start licking public benches, door knobs and ATMs if you want to live. I have been doing this all day.

Sure people think you are weird and licking toilet seats in airports isn't the most pleasant thing in the world. But hey, I would rather get the coronavirus now than take my chances in two months time.
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RE: Fare dodging on public transport
(03-04-2020 02:27 PM)Lee Harvey Pozzwald Wrote:  Is this what got the ban? If so pretty mild compared to the heavy cursing that everyone is doing.
Quote:HAHA. Oh God, my bad. Blush

Or was it the fan fiction he posted probably without being aware of what it was?

Quote: I am a senior Chinese military intelligence officer and I know the truth about the coronavirus outbreak. It is far worse than the media are telling you.

I am a Chinese citizen in Wuhan who occupies — or perhaps occupied — a high-ranking position in military intelligence. I am also a member of the Chinese Communist Party. As a senior official near the top of the Party, I have access to a great deal of classified information and I have been involved in many top secret government projects. I have a doctorate from a leading university in a western country, which is why I am able to write my account in English.

I have information that I believe could lead to the overthrow of my government. It is also relevant to billions of people outside of China, all of whom are now in existential peril.(..........)

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What do you guys think of this?


Or this one advising that you get inflected with corona immediately?

Quote:The thing is that you actually want to get the coronavirus EARLY.

You want to get it NOW.

Everyone will get it eventually - best get it now whilst supply chains are functioning, shops are filled with food and hospitals are functioning and not overwhelmed.

It will be a year before there is a vaccine.

Don't feel sorry for the people getting the coronavirus now. They are the lucky ones.

YOU will be part of the unlucky ones when you are lying on overcrowded hospital floors two months from now begging for medical attention.

Start licking public benches, door knobs and ATMs if you want to live. I have been doing this all day.

Sure people think you are weird and licking toilet seats in airports isn't the most pleasant thing in the world. But hey, I would rather get the coronavirus now than take my chances in two months time.

I doubt that got him banned, as banning for that reason would be a clear misunderstanding of the Christian faith.
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(03-04-2020 10:27 AM)Repo Wrote:  
(03-04-2020 10:06 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  If you’re legitimately participating on this forum, I might assume you are a higher caliber of man than the masses. I’m by no means a beacon of perfect morality but I don’t get this. What’s the next step in getting a rush, shoplifting candy bars for the thrill of it? (it’s ok, poor people do it all the time)

Ha I would definitely not assume that. Every forum has its share of weirdos and losers.

The next thing you know scumbags will be bragging about breezing through the self-service checkout at Walmart without scanning a 20 pack of budwiesers, two bags of charcoal, a boston cream pie flavored yogurt and some Johnsonville sweet Italian sausages.

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^^ That's repacked gateway drug theory if I've heard it correctly. One day evading fares, a civil matter, the next day, selling fentanyl in Akron.

One thing, fare evasion is a victimless crime.

Root cause is the disintegration of civil society. To say its someone's fault for not paying a fare is missing bigger picture.
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(03-05-2020 12:48 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The next thing you know scumbags will be bragging about breezing through the self-service checkout at Walmart without scanning a 20 pack of budwiesers, two bags of charcoal, a boston cream pie flavored yogurt and some Johnsonville sweet Italian sausages.

I've been staying out of this thread.

I'll have you know that the other day at (((Sam's Club))), amidst all the virus chaos, I paid for every item on the top AND bottom of my cart. It would have been too easy, but I took the moral high road.

It still kind of stings. Poker players don't remember their big wins, they remember their big losses. But I guess I did the right thing.

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(03-05-2020 02:03 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(03-05-2020 12:48 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The next thing you know scumbags will be bragging about breezing through the self-service checkout at Walmart without scanning a 20 pack of budwiesers, two bags of charcoal, a boston cream pie flavored yogurt and some Johnsonville sweet Italian sausages.

I've been staying out of this thread.

I'll have you know that the other day at (((Sam's Club))), amidst all the virus chaos, I paid for every item on the top AND bottom of my cart. It would have been too easy, but I took the moral high road.

It still kind of stings. Poker players don't remember their big wins, they remember their big losses. But I guess I did the right thing.

Aloha!

Okay, where is the real Kona? The real Kona would sneak a 24 pack and relax on his nice lawn at home.
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(03-05-2020 02:03 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(03-05-2020 12:48 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The next thing you know scumbags will be bragging about breezing through the self-service checkout at Walmart without scanning a 20 pack of budwiesers, two bags of charcoal, a boston cream pie flavored yogurt and some Johnsonville sweet Italian sausages.

I've been staying out of this thread.

I'll have you know that the other day at (((Sam's Club))), amidst all the virus chaos, I paid for every item on the top AND bottom of my cart. It would have been too easy, but I took the moral high road.

It still kind of stings. Poker players don't remember their big wins, they remember their big losses. But I guess I did the right thing.

Aloha!

Wait...There's pie flavored yogurt?

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(03-05-2020 01:19 PM)Lee Harvey Pozzwald Wrote:  ^^ That's repacked gateway drug theory if I've heard it correctly. One day evading fares, a civil matter, the next day, selling fentanyl in Akron.

One thing, fare evasion is a victimless crime.

Root cause is the disintegration of civil society. To say its someone's fault for not paying a fare is missing bigger picture.

I know this user has been banned, but what a spineless position to take. "Civil society has desintegrated so I'm not accountable for my own actions". I guess you could use that line to justify any behavior.
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I'm not going to lie, Boston creme pie flavored yogurt is delicious. I might go get some now. It's worth the risk of getting Corona.
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