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I’ve been told that the body can only absorb 300mg at a time. So how is taking 500-1000mg every 10 mins helpful?
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(03-05-2020 02:12 AM)Matt3B Wrote:  I’ve been told that the body can only absorb 300mg at a time. So how is taking 500-1000mg every 10 mins helpful?

The obvious conclusion is that what you were told is wrong. While this excerpt answers your question, I highly recommend reading the entire article.

Quote:Dr. Robert Cathcart advocated treating influenza with up to 150,000 milligrams of vitamin C daily, often intravenously. You and I can, to some extent, simulate a 24 hour IV of vitamin C by taking it by mouth very, very often. When I had pneumonia, it took 2,000 mg of vitamin C every six minutes, by the clock, to get me to saturation. My oral daily dose was over 100,000 mg. Fever, cough and other symptoms were reduced in hours; complete recovery took just a few days. That is performance at least as good as any pharmaceutical will give, and the vitamin is both safer and cheaper. Many physicians consider high doses of vitamin C to be so powerful an antiviral that it may be ranked as a functional immunization for a variety influenza strains.

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n06.shtml
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300mg. Right. The same guys that tell you it does not work - on the other side there are thousands of MDs who can prove otherwise.

I read a few other studies that supposedly proved the lack of efficiency in vitamin C. They happily stop at 500mg in many studies while having a cold, because the healing starts way beyond that factor. They also sometimes use meta-studies where people take idiotic crappy bodybuilder supplements that don't work and show them as proof. They happily discard any of the hundreds of studies that prove the opposite claiming that those don't exist.

Yeah - trust the study, don't trust your body, trust the pharma gods - there must not be any reason for them to lie over such a thing. Cheap, non-patentable, more effective than most other meds in that field, why should the establishment be ever interested in attacking that? I see absolutely no reason for them to do so indeed.....

Meanwhile - I can easily prove everything within 30 minutes of everyone here while you have a cold. I can bet 1 mio. $ on it. It's as effective as that. But yeah - it wont be possible with 300mg or 1000mg while sick.

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Quote:Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Mar 5, 2020





Vitamin C Saves Wuhan Family from COVID-19
by Richard Cheng, M.D., Ph.D.
Watch it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6-elCYFhqJs

(OMNS Mar 5, 2020) Ms. N lives in Wuhan, China. She takes special care about the well-being of her entire family including her chronically-ill mother, aged 71. Ms. N has always been interested in nutrition and she recently learned about vitamin C's antiviral effects.

I am an American physician currently residing in Shanghai. I interviewed Ms. N by telephone after I received a forwarded story that she posted on Chinese social media, WeChat. I made an effort to connect with Ms. N to verify the story and below is what she told me.

Ms. N lives with her child in the epicenter of COVID-19 pandemic. She is close to her parents and her brother and his wife. The six of them visit each other on a regular basis. Her mother has diabetes and heart disease with stents placed, in addition to several other chronic illnesses including reflux esophagitis.

Right before the Chinese New Year, around January 21st, her mother developed flu-like symptoms, with a low grade fever of 38C. Based on her knowledge. Ms. N advised all members of the family to take oral vitamin C. She herself has been taking about 20,000 mg daily in divided-up doses. Her mother reluctantly took a smaller dose, probably half or less of what her daughter's been taking.

Her mother's condition was stable for 9-10 days. But on January 30th, without deteriorating, her mother decided to go to Wuhan Union Hospital, Tongji College of Medicine, The Science and Technology University of Central China, a hospital prominent not only in Wuhan, but in all of China. She wanted to check out if she was infected with the Wuhan pneumonia virus. She got her presumption confirmed. At the hospital, she was diagnosed of what became known now as Covid-19 pneumonia. The second day upon admission, her fever started going up, as high as 39.6C. In about 10 days on February 10th she was admitted to the Intensive Care Unit and went on the heart-lung machine as a final attempt to save her life.

At this time Ms. N learned of the clinical trials with vitamin C, administered by infusion (IVC; intravenous vitamin C). Immediately she requested the person in charge on the ICU to use large dose IVC on her mother. The attending physician agreed but would go only to around 10,000 mg. So it happened. After 20 days in ICU, her mother improved and was discharged to a regular ward a few days ago, continuing the IVC treatment, as insisted by Ms. N.

While in hospital, Miss N, her brother and sister-in-law took turns to visit and take care of her mother. They were wearing very simple protection: gloves and masks. Also noted is that while her mother got sick at home, none of the five other family members was wearing any mask for several days. But all of them went on oral vitamin C tablets. None of them developed COVID-19 infection.

So far this is the story of Ms. N. We wish her mother a full and rapid recovery.

In the context of the vast amount of research, clinical studies, case reports and my own decades of experience on vitamin C's use on viral infections, I summarize the story below with a few take-home messages:

1. Vitamin C tablets at high doses daily may be the reason why the family didn't catch the infection.

2. Given her age, history of chronic disease, and the high mortality of COVID-19 on seniors, IVC may have played a large role in her mother's improvement.

3. The news of official IVC clinical trials has definitely had a positive impact in this case, as the attending physician was emboldened to use IVC.

4. A well-functioning immune system is of the utmost importance to keep away the viral infection. And, vitamin C may support the defense against the COVID-19 virus, most importantly in chronically ill patients with a weakened immune system.

(Note from Andrew W. Saul, OMNS Editor-in-Chief: Dr. Richard Cheng is still in China now. He continues to work overtime with expert Chinese doctors and hospitals to facilitate providing intravenous vitamin C for the most seriously ill COVID-19 victims. For background information on the plausibility of treating coronavirus with high-dose vitamin C: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n09.shtml. Dr. Cheng's personal presentation of the case above is posted at YouTube: https://youtu.be/6-elCYFhqJs An additional video from China by Dr. Cheng is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC0SO9KDG7U )

The elderly mother should have taken more than 10.000mg - people who are 70+ don't absorb that much. Second - going to the hospital quickly made her situation deteriorate. If they pumped her full with AIDS meds, then this might have caused the rapid destruction.

10.000mg IV is akin to 100.000mg oral, so obviously works much slower than the recommend dose of 20.000mg to 25.000mg. In some cases MDs administered 50.000mg IV - severe pneumonia.

Still - it worked and that is what matters. At least the local doctors gave her some vit c even if they were afraid that it would hurt the patient or thought that it would not work. AIDs meds are fine for a 70yo, but vitamin c is not .... ah well....

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An alternate to hand sanitizer is 70% Isopropyl alcohol. When I worked in a laboratory, we would spray it everywhere, including our gloved hands, to kill organisms. Apply several sprays (or a big dollop on your palm) and rub it all over thoroughly. It will quickly air dry.

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Thanks for the replies. Wasn't being a cunt, but was hoping to be told it's wrong. Thanks! Gonna give it a go now since I'm sick.
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I can attest it's effectiveness, been using it for a while now. Very useful to carry in a car when you cannot use water and soap and don't want any residue. Just use in moderation, it's harsh on the skin.

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I also megadose Vit C as a precaution and to have enough reserves if I get sick.

I read in the papers that China is now experimenting with intravenous Vit C and will publish results soon.

Good idea to stock up on Vit C.
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I have my doubts about this coronavirus pandemic, but I don't mind stocking up on vitamin C - I already had done so. I also upped my daily dose of vitamin C.

All the preliminary reports from the local MDs in China and Korea who have started to use vitamin C megadoses are positive. In some cases it was the only thing helping among the elderly.

So regardless whether it's biowarfare or natural - it's effective because of the way this treatment is designed by boosting the body's immune system. Once you take 50.000mg in one day and have zero loose stool/titration, then you know that something is up, because no healthy person can eat the equivalent of vit c of 500 oranges and have zero reaction to it. Your body is obviously using that dose to defend itself against whatever it is.

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Quote:Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19
Written by Andrew W. Saul

(OMNS Mar 3, 2020) The government of Shanghai, China has announced its official recommendation that COVID-19 should be treated with high amounts of intravenous vitamin C. (1) Dosage recommendations vary with severity of illness, from 50 to 200 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day to as much as 200 mg/kg/day.

These dosages are approximately 4,000 to 16,000 mg for an adult, administered by IV. This specific method of administration is important, says intravenous therapy expert Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD, because vitamin C’s effect is at least ten times more powerful by IV than if taken orally. Dr. Yanagisawa is president of the Tokyo-based Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy. He says, “Intravenous vitamin C is a safe, effective, and broad-spectrum antiviral.”

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“On the afternoon of February 20, 2020, another 4 patients with severe new coronaviral pneumonia recovered from the C10 West Ward of Tongji Hospital. In the past 8 patients have been discharged from hospital. . . [H]igh-dose vitamin C achieved good results in clinical applications. We believe that for patients with severe neonatal pneumonia and critically ill patients, vitamin C treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after admission. . .[E]arly application of large doses of vitamin C can have a strong antioxidant effect, reduce inflammatory responses, and improve endothelial function. . . Numerous studies have shown that the dose of vitamin C has a lot to do with the effect of treatment. . . [H]gh-dose vitamin C can not only improve antiviral levels, but more importantly, can prevent and treat acute lung injury (ALI) and acute respiratory distress (ARDS).”

https://www.naturalhealth365.com/shangha....3315.html
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< Good news - I hope that this spreads in China because they are generally less relient on Western pharmaceutical influence in Asia. At least something good may come out of this.....

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I worked in human resources in a nursing home and had to fit all workers with masks and note their sizes. I remember that if men had beards or excessive facial hair the mask would not create proper seal with your skin leaving gaps where any air can pass through making the mask less potent. So, when using a mask gents, clean shaven is best and allow a seal to form as best as possible.

When I sanded a houses (drywall taping) I wore a mask and around the seal and nose I would put Vaseline to create a better seal and prevent any gaps of dust from coming in. I found that putting Vaseline helped immensely to cover gaps.
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What is the best vitamin C to buy? Some supplements say ascorbic acid, L-ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate etc.
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(03-06-2020 10:57 AM)aeroektar Wrote:  What is the best vitamin C to buy? Some supplements say ascorbic acid, L-ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate etc.

Read the thread. People have discussed not only types of Vitamin C, but even specific brands.
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Good vid on what to do health-wise.

Get l-ascorbic acid first.
You can make sodium ascorbate yourself - and as i mentioned - for most people it will be better to take the pure ascorbic acid. Sodium ascorbate is gotten by mixing baking soda - pure - bicarbonate with vitamin c (5-7 parts vit c and 1 part bicarbonate). Then with water mixed.

Pure l-ascorbic acid works better for the majority - a few people 10-20% or less may do better with the buffered version but chances are you are not one of them.

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(03-06-2020 10:57 AM)aeroektar Wrote:  What is the best vitamin C to buy? Some supplements say ascorbic acid, L-ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate etc.

I take Echinacea C by Standard Process. One in morning and one in evening.

You get the vitamin C and Echinacea which is a proven to strengthen immune function.

I was tested by a very good nutritionist to determine it was the best for me and Standard Process has quality products.

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Alright I'm five days into this vitamin c drink crap. I got bad heartburn right now and my urine looks like antifreeze. Is Simeon_Strangelight trying to kill me or am I overdoing it?

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How much are you dosing?

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I bought 1lb of pure ascorbic acid powder today. It was some amazon choice product with good reviews for about $17.

I'll take it if I get sick, but I'm mostly concerned for family members.
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(03-06-2020 07:29 PM)Bury Zenek Wrote:  How much are you dosing?

Eight thousand milligrams. Ten yesterday.

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You're probably overdosing. The right "megadose" is that which does not upset your stomach or cause unpleasant symptoms.

Start smaller and work up. Most people can't just suddenly "shock" their system with 6, 8 or 10 thousand mills.

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I have a mild sore throat. Started 12000 mg first day yesterday. Today. 15000mg. One pill 1000mg with rose hip hourly.

No reaction but did have slightly loose stool, probably because of Wendy meal yesterday and eating lemon seeds plus granola (I have mild Candida) today. Will report back in two days without lemon seeds nor eating garbage foods.
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Up to 10 grams of C a day and 2 grams of niacin. Mixed with intermittent fasting I'm feeling good but I'll post if I get Coronavirus down the line.

Might be wise to work up a gram at a time if you're starting out.
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(03-06-2020 07:39 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 07:29 PM)Bury Zenek Wrote:  How much are you dosing?

Eight thousand milligrams. Ten yesterday.

Aloha!

10.000 is the maximum healthy dose.

IF you take pure l-ascorbic acid, then no discomfort should come of it. If it does, then you are nowhere compromised. Dial it back to 5000mg. Even 2000mg daily is for some enough for the immune system boost. I seriously doubt that you will be overly affected there.

Heartburn is a strange reaction I did not hear about. Also vitamin C does not color urine - vitamin B groups and others do.

You sure that you are taking pure l-ascorbic acid and not some mix or something?

Either way - take less. It depends on your personal health state. That is why for both maintenance as well as disease there were huge variations found by Dr. Cathcart and others - one person required 100.000mg daily for a severe cold while the other came out with a mere 15.000mg. Similar variations apply to vitamin C, but somehow I think that you may be taking some added version or mixing it.

But yeah - obviously I am attempting to kill Hawaiians who are very susceptible to this.

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(03-06-2020 08:20 PM)forestdweller Wrote:  Up to 10 grams of C a day and 2 grams of niacin. Mixed with intermittent fasting I'm feeling good but I'll post if I get Coronavirus down the line.

Might be wise to work up a gram at a time if you're starting out.

Niacin is tricky - 2 grams is a lot. I couldn't even take 300mg without severe flushing. Careful people with niacin - there are some people out there who can take huge doses of niacin B3, but most will have severy flushing/reddening of the skin for minutes or even hours. And you cannot take it if you have heart issues. It's often used in conjunction with psychotic disorders and works well for some people, but those people are rare - few and far in between. It's not part of the normal protocol and I would not recommend taking it unless you checked up on it, maybe even consulted a local orthomolecular MD.

Vit C is easy and harmless - only kills Konas.

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