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(03-21-2020 08:45 PM)Bury Zenek Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 06:03 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  According to my source , chloroquine treatment is not proven at all and won't fix anything. If i find the time to translate i will.

This may not mean that it doesn't work, rather it could mean that the official line will be to drop this possibility. That could for sure brake the narrative and they don't want that.

It is possible that until the supply is increased, health officials are downplaying the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine plus azathioprine.

Scott Adams confirmed that a friend of his with coronavirus was recently prescribed hydroxychloroquine by a medical doctor, to treat the virus, while he was an inpatient at a hospital.
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First tangible results coming from the battlefront, regarding the chloroquine :

A hospital in Posadas, with solid experience in treating malaria with chloroquine, has administered this drug to coronavirus patients, and the result is "weakly (meekly) good" (débilmente bueno).

https://www.infobae.com/america/tendenci...ronavirus/
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So to steal a quote from a YouTube comment "Chloroquine is just a facilitator for uptake in the cell. Zinc itself is the solution to stop the RNA poymerase from transcription"






I started on zinc bandwagon a while ago but i read this piece from Ben Greenfield's site about zinc a few months back which got me rethinking how to potentially use zinc properly. I've been on this protocol for 4 months(taking zinc in the following manner when I feel something coming on) which doesn't prove much anecdotally but I'm sticking with it. What Ben writes below about taking zinc right away after first exposure is one of the main parts I was missing in the past along with the type of zinc he was recommending.


https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article...-duration/

"During the cold and flu season, if you see me mumbling with a mouthful of what appears to be a breath mint, it is more likely a zinc lozenge, and it is one of the four to six zinc lozenges that I dissolve in my mouth each day if I’ve been exposed to sickness.

Zinc is a micronutrient, found in many types of food like meat, cheese, and especially in seafood, particularly oysters. If you’re wondering just how important this micronutrient can be, since 1963, scientists have learned of over 300 enzymes and over 1,000 transcription factors that require zinc for proper function. And, not only does zinc modulate cell-mediated immunity, but it also has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties that can provide a potent cure for the common cold. However, I wouldn’t suggest simply running out to your local drug store and grabbing a bottle of any old zinc. The type – and the dose – matters significantly.

First of all, I recommend getting high-dose zinc lozenges, as opposed to capsules or tablets. This is because lozenges are dissolved slowly in the mouth, providing a steady release of free ions into the pharyngeal region in the nasal cavity, and therefore can have a greater effect on reducing respiratory and nasal symptoms associated with sickness. In fact, studies have shown that zinc lozenges can decrease the duration of a cold by 5-7 days (if you think about how long a cold usually lasts, that’s almost getting rid of the cold!)

I would also suggest avoiding any lozenges that contain any citric acid, as this commonly added compounds can bind tightly to zinc ions, preventing them from getting released. Instead, look for a form of zinc called zinc acetate, which is twice as effective as zinc gluconate.

Finally, for zinc to actually do its job, you need to start taking it right away – at the very first sign of symptoms, when you feel you’ve been exposed to sickness. That’s because it works by interfering with replication of a virus and keeping it from infecting you. So you essentially only have 2 or 3 days until it’s too late to use zinc. After you’re already sick, it’s too late and the zinc can’t do much to help your sniffles.

In summary, here’s my recommended protocol for using zinc:

-As soon as you realize that you have cold symptoms, pop a zinc acetate lozenge.
-Let it dissolve in your mouth for 20 to 30 minutes.
-Pop a new lozenge every 2-3 hours until symptoms are gone."
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Get rid of your wifi, hard wire your internet. Don't put your (((smartphones))) in your pockets. Megadose with chelators and chaga mushroom powder. Zinc and C will only take you so far.

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(03-22-2020 01:21 PM)The Wire Wrote:  I started on zinc bandwagon a while ago but i read this piece from Ben Greenfield's site about zinc a few months back which got me rethinking how to potentially use zinc properly. I've been on this protocol for 4 months(taking zinc in the following manner when I feel something coming on) which doesn't prove much anecdotally but I'm sticking with it. What Ben writes below about taking zinc right away after first exposure is one of the main parts I was missing in the past along with the type of zinc he was recommending.


https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/article...-duration/

"During the cold and flu season, if you see me mumbling with a mouthful of what appears to be a breath mint, it is more likely a zinc lozenge, and it is one of the four to six zinc lozenges that I dissolve in my mouth each day if I’ve been exposed to sickness.

Zinc is a micronutrient, found in many types of food like meat, cheese, and especially in seafood, particularly oysters. If you’re wondering just how important this micronutrient can be, since 1963, scientists have learned of over 300 enzymes and over 1,000 transcription factors that require zinc for proper function. And, not only does zinc modulate cell-mediated immunity, but it also has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties that can provide a potent cure for the common cold. However, I wouldn’t suggest simply running out to your local drug store and grabbing a bottle of any old zinc. The type – and the dose – matters significantly.

First of all, I recommend getting high-dose zinc lozenges, as opposed to capsules or tablets. This is because lozenges are dissolved slowly in the mouth, providing a steady release of free ions into the pharyngeal region in the nasal cavity, and therefore can have a greater effect on reducing respiratory and nasal symptoms associated with sickness. In fact, studies have shown that zinc lozenges can decrease the duration of a cold by 5-7 days (if you think about how long a cold usually lasts, that’s almost getting rid of the cold!)

I would also suggest avoiding any lozenges that contain any citric acid, as this commonly added compounds can bind tightly to zinc ions, preventing them from getting released. Instead, look for a form of zinc called zinc acetate, which is twice as effective as zinc gluconate.

Finally, for zinc to actually do its job, you need to start taking it right away – at the very first sign of symptoms, when you feel you’ve been exposed to sickness. That’s because it works by interfering with replication of a virus and keeping it from infecting you. So you essentially only have 2 or 3 days until it’s too late to use zinc. After you’re already sick, it’s too late and the zinc can’t do much to help your sniffles.

In summary, here’s my recommended protocol for using zinc:

-As soon as you realize that you have cold symptoms, pop a zinc acetate lozenge.
-Let it dissolve in your mouth for 20 to 30 minutes.
-Pop a new lozenge every 2-3 hours until symptoms are gone."

I concur with taking zinc. I take 50 mg every day with my lunch. There are a wide variety of forms. I would stick with these forms:

Quote:Zinc is available in several forms. Zinc sulfate is the least expensive form, but it is the least easily absorbed and may cause stomach upset.

More easily absorbed forms of zinc are zinc picolinate, zinc citrate, zinc acetate, zinc glycerate, and zinc monomethionine. If zinc sulfate causes stomach irritation, you can try another form, such as zinc citrate.

The amount of elemental zinc is listed on the product label (usually 30 - 50 mg). To determine the amount to take in supplement form, remember that you get about 10 - 15 mg from food.

https://www.mountsinai.org/health-librar...ement/zinc


It is important not to take more than 100 mg daily. I stick with a 50 mg supplement -- and you get more with your food. In my case, I also get a bit more in my multi-vitamin as well.

Quote:Taking 100 mg of zinc daily, or taking supplemental zinc for 10 years or longer, has been linked with a doubling of the risk developing prostate cancer in men.

https://www.mountsinai.org/health-librar...ement/zinc


I take the NOW Brand zinc picolinate at 50 mg, because it is a brand that I trust, but the other forms cited above will also absorb well. I also have some zinc lozenges on order that use the zinc glycerate cited above.
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(03-15-2020 06:22 AM)Hypno Wrote:  
(03-15-2020 04:25 AM)slow_mike Wrote:  
(03-14-2020 08:04 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  https://www.drvitaminsolutions.com/common-cold-01/

This webpage recommends " Melatonin—10 to 50 mg at bedtime ", it's a huge dose.

Not sure I would want to start experimenting with melatonin right now in a time when having quality sleep and being fully rested is the most important.
(Only 3mg before bed used to mess up my sleep completely).

Not saying melatonin is bad ... It's just that it's this kind of supplement on which people react in a very different way. Takes some time to find the right dosage

A normal dose of melatonin is 1 - 3 mgs, and if you don't take it regularly take a very small does. its not a sleeping pill but rather a hormone and it doesn't always work the way you expect. More is not always better.

If all you have is a 3mgs invest in a pill cutter, they only cost a few bucks and are well worth it.

This high dose melatonin therapy is a real thing. I should have know. Life Extension stays up on the cutting edge science, which is why I used it as a reference. You can use high doses of melatonin, just like Vitamin D, as a short-term remedy in acute cases.

Quote:I prefer my patients to have a good level of Vitamin D. Taking 20,000 IUs of Vitamin D per day for three days can be effective at pushing that immune system.

Ari Whitten: Why not do 5,000 IUs or 10,000 IUs spread out over a longer period of time?

Dr. Guillermo Ruiz: You want to compress it. For example, Niacin. Niacin is a vitamin, it helps with different things but when you bolus it, when you do a high dose of Niacin and you get that Niacin flush, it has some lipogenesis effect. After you hit a certain threshold, you can actually burn some fat and you open different pathways. It changes, it’s no longer a vitamin.

Same thing with melatonin. Micro-dosing melatonin helps with sleep. 40 milligrams of melatonin becomes an antioxidant and a very powerful antioxidant. The sleep stuff doesn’t even matter anymore. It’s acting as a– You want to compress it and have that boosting effect. If you’re flirting with high levels of Vitamin D already, you don’t want to do that that often. Vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin and it can remain in your system for a long time and can cause problems with calcification, with parathyroid issues and other stuff like that. Acutely, you can definitely use it.

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Not related to this exactly, but can anyone here recommend an online pharmacy to get prescription stuff without a prescription at reasonable prices shipping to the US/Canada/etc.?
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(03-22-2020 09:59 PM)kel Wrote:  Not related to this exactly, but can anyone here recommend an online pharmacy to get prescription stuff without a prescription at reasonable prices shipping to the US/Canada/etc.?

See post 215
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(03-23-2020 11:11 AM)Hypno Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 09:59 PM)kel Wrote:  Not related to this exactly, but can anyone here recommend an online pharmacy to get prescription stuff without a prescription at reasonable prices shipping to the US/Canada/etc.?

See post 215

I did take a look at post 215 and the link in that post was was: https://pharmacyreviewer.co/

The problem is, a lot of these online pharmacies have a Cypress PO Box even though they are supposedly "Canadian". Be careful, you never know what poison pill or starch placebo you might receive from one of these outfits. Fake reviews aren't hard to post either. If anyone has direct, first-hand experience with an online pharmacy that actually delivered the goods (and they worked and are safe!), that would be the most useful recommendation.

I'm sure a lot of our members are going to be looking for Hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) along with azithromycin (the latter of which is commonly available at your pharmacy/local urgent care, used for strep throat, cuts, etc.). Be careful about unvetted outfits!

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Don't know if this will help with COVID.

However, I have had pneumonia twice and had a bout with something nasty after traveling for the holidays. I think it might have been an early COVID strain but whatever. All three times I came down with periods of just brutal coughing, deep in the lungs. Coughing attacks so severe I vomited. Cough drops and medicine weren't working in the middle of these attacks.

Reading online I came across and old wive's tale. Rubbing Vicks Vapo Rub on the bottom of your feet stops coughing in its tracks. No joke, every single time I've done it in the middle of coughing attack the coughing stopped within 3-5 mins. It's a little disgusting, rubbing a bunch of Vicks on the bottom of your feet but I'm dead serious, it works. Meds did not.

Anecdotal but it appears to me when having pneumonia, you're at your worst when the coughing hits its peak. As soon as I got the coughing under control by doing the above, I was better within a couple days. Perhaps the Vicks acts as medicine for the lungs. One theory is your body absorbs more medicinally from the soles of your feet. Clear your lungs of it and you're on the road to recovery.

Call BS if you like. I always keep Vicks in my house for this purpose after my experiences.

And old fashioned Eastern Euro steam bath at the kitchen table helps too. Pure Aloe Vera and Eucalyptus in steaming water with my head under a towel did wonders.

If I show symptoms I'm doing both of the above multiple times per day to repair and clean out my lungs, doing a vitamin c regimen (I bought 4 lbs of high quality powder) and zinc.
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Why not just rub it on your chest?

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(03-23-2020 09:40 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Why not just rub it on your chest?

Because in my experience it doesn't work nearly as well.
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(03-23-2020 09:35 PM)rainy Wrote:  Don't know if this will help with COVID.

However, I have had pneumonia twice and had a bout with something nasty after traveling for the holidays. I think it might have been an early COVID strain but whatever. All three times I came down with periods of just brutal coughing, deep in the lungs. Coughing attacks so severe I vomited. Cough drops and medicine weren't working in the middle of these attacks.

Reading online I came across and old wive's tale. Rubbing Vicks Vapo Rub on the bottom of your feet stops coughing in its tracks. No joke, every single time I've done it in the middle of coughing attack the coughing stopped within 3-5 mins. It's a little disgusting, rubbing a bunch of Vicks on the bottom of your feet but I'm dead serious, it works. Meds did not.

Anecdotal but it appears to me when having pneumonia, you're at your worst when the coughing hits its peak. As soon as I got the coughing under control by doing the above, I was better within a couple days. Perhaps the Vicks acts as medicine for the lungs. One theory is your body absorbs more medicinally from the soles of your feet. Clear your lungs of it and you're on the road to recovery.

Call BS if you like. I always keep Vicks in my house for this purpose after my experiences.

And old fashioned Eastern Euro steam bath at the kitchen table helps too. Pure Aloe Vera and Eucalyptus in steaming water with my head under a towel did wonders.

If I show symptoms I'm doing both of the above multiple times per day to repair and clean out my lungs, doing a vitamin c regimen (I bought 4 lbs of high quality powder) and zinc.

I believe it, because the active ingredients in Vicks VapoRub are old-time holistic ingredients, including camphor (a cough suppressant and topical analgesic), eucalyptus oil (a cough suppressant), and menthol (a cough suppressant and topical analgesic). In fact, eucalyptus oil is one of the two essential oils (tree tree oil being the other one) that I sent to my mother to use in a nebulizer against the coronavirus.

In fact, I just checked my medicine cabinet. I have an unopened can of Watkins Methyl Camphor Ointment, which is somewhat similar. On Amazon, one of the reviews states:

Quote:Vick’s Vapo Rub has been part of my life for 60 years. Any flu, cold or cough and Vick’s is used. However, I have noticed with the last two bottles purchased, the camphor smell was not as strong, nor did the menthol have the same smell and warming properties. I finally read the ingredients and noticed they had changed. Synthetic camphor is an ingredient and, I believe, the % of menthol is less. Vick’s simply nor longer does the job! Luckily I found JR Watkins Vapor Rub and it is very close to the original Vicks.

https://www.amazon.com/Watkins-Menthol-C...7BQQ8?th=1


Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I hope that I will not need it. Confused
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(03-23-2020 11:24 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:11 AM)Hypno Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 09:59 PM)kel Wrote:  Not related to this exactly, but can anyone here recommend an online pharmacy to get prescription stuff without a prescription at reasonable prices shipping to the US/Canada/etc.?

See post 215

I did take a look at post 215 and the link in that post was was: https://pharmacyreviewer.co/

The problem is, a lot of these online pharmacies have a Cypress PO Box even though they are supposedly "Canadian". Be careful, you never know what poison pill or starch placebo you might receive from one of these outfits. Fake reviews aren't hard to post either. If anyone has direct, first-hand experience with an online pharmacy that actually delivered the goods (and they worked and are safe!), that would be the most useful recommendation.

I'm sure a lot of our members are going to be looking for Hydroxychloroquine (brand name Plaquenil) along with azithromycin (the latter of which is commonly available at your pharmacy/local urgent care, used for strep throat, cuts, etc.). Be careful about unvetted outfits!

OK then just ask your U.S. physician for a prescription. I mean, what do you expect?

It may be good to order a supply from India now that will arrive in a month, rather than waiting until you are on death's door and hope a pharmacy here in the U.S. still has a supply.
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Via the Vox Day blog.

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I am a medical doctor and I believe both my wife and I have contracted corona. We were unable to test for it because it was unavailable given the strict guidelines in place at the time. One of the things I noticed on a pathology report I saw from a patient in China are these so-called thick mucous secretions in the lungs . This reminded me of what happens to an asthmatic's lungs when they are having an attack. For asthmatics, they die because they cannot oxygenate their bodies because there is so much mucous in their lungs.

I thought, why not treat these lung symptoms from corona the way you would for an asthmatic .The reason for the mucous shouldn't matter. One of those ways is to use a medication called albuterol which you nebulize and give yourself a breathing treatment several times a day if necessary.

I had been listening to my wife's lungs for several day,s and on one day I noticed a decrease in breath sounds in one of her lobes along with some wheezing. This is an indication that mucous was plugging up the bronchiole. A worrisome sign and a harbinger of pneumonia potentially coming. I started her on two treatments a day which immediately caused the mucous to break up. We knew this because she started coughing it up. One day later, her lungs were clear and there was no wheezing. I did it to myself just as a preventive measure one time a day. We continued this for about a week before stopping it. It appears we have recovered from the infection.

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wrong thread...

Vitamin C Megadosing: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74755.html
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Quote:An orthohantavirus is a single-stranded, enveloped, negative-sense RNA virus in the family Hantaviridae of the order Bunyavirales. These viruses normally cause infection in rodents, but do not cause disease in them. Humans may become infected with hantaviruses through contact with rodent urine, saliva, or feces.

Been around forever. Wake me up when the first 10,000 people are infected globally, 100 of which are dead.

There is no compelling evidence to believe that there is going to be a string of viral scares that force people to give up their liberties permanently. It would be bad for business, bad for globalisation and ultimately cause extreme civil unrest leading either to the deposition of the elites or a total breakdown in the societal order.

It's not their plan because it's not feasible.

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(03-25-2020 02:39 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Via the Vox Day blog.

Quote:A doctor from the South:
I am a medical doctor and I believe both my wife and I have contracted corona. We were unable to test for it because it was unavailable given the strict guidelines in place at the time. One of the things I noticed on a pathology report I saw from a patient in China are these so-called thick mucous secretions in the lungs . This reminded me of what happens to an asthmatic's lungs when they are having an attack. For asthmatics, they die because they cannot oxygenate their bodies because there is so much mucous in their lungs.

I thought, why not treat these lung symptoms from corona the way you would for an asthmatic .The reason for the mucous shouldn't matter. One of those ways is to use a medication called albuterol which you nebulize and give yourself a breathing treatment several times a day if necessary.

I had been listening to my wife's lungs for several day,s and on one day I noticed a decrease in breath sounds in one of her lobes along with some wheezing. This is an indication that mucous was plugging up the bronchiole. A worrisome sign and a harbinger of pneumonia potentially coming. I started her on two treatments a day which immediately caused the mucous to break up. We knew this because she started coughing it up. One day later, her lungs were clear and there was no wheezing. I did it to myself just as a preventive measure one time a day. We continued this for about a week before stopping it. It appears we have recovered from the infection.


I read similar reports about 2 weeks ago and made sure I have a good supply of expectorant. I get bronchitis on average about once a year and Mucinex works well for me to break up chest congestion. Costco sells a generic version. I have no idea if this will aid treatment of the Chinese Wuhan virus but if I'm on death's door I might give it a try.
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(03-21-2020 06:03 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  According to my source , chloroquine treatment is not proven at all and won't fix anything. If i find the time to translate i will.

A New York doctor says Hydroxychloroquine has worked with a 100% success rate on 350 patients. From Vox Popoli.

Quote:The TrumpCure worketh

And apparently, the TrumpCure works even better if a megadose of Vitamin C is added for a TrumpCure+:

Quote:A physician in New York state claims he has used the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine and zinc to treat 350 patients for COVID-19 with 100 percent success.

In a video posted on YouTube, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours, the Gateway Pundit blog reported.

Zelenko, addressing his message to President Trump, said he's a board-certified family practioner in the community of Kiryas Joel in Orange County, New York, in the Hudson Valley, about 50 miles north of New York City.

The bad guys must know the TrumpCure knocks out Corona-chan, because they're trying very hard to shut it down and prevent the infected from being saved by it. These people are not only sick, they actively promote disease and death.



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Dr. Zelenko didn't mention what dose or frequency he was administering. If anyone actually knows the specifics of treatment, it would be helpful.

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RE: Health treatments and prevention for Coronavirus
Youtube took down the Dr Zelenko video. They really are trying to shut down Hydroxychloroquine. Amazing.
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"According to Gifford-Jones, M.D., high amounts of vitamin C offer a great way to avoid the threat of this virus. He recommends taking 2,000 mg doses twice a day to improve immunity. If you begin to develop flu-like symptoms, his recommendation is to take 2,000 mg every hour as your bowels tolerate it."

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RE: Health treatments and prevention for Coronavirus
i have a total of 3 n95 masks (paper masks) cool flow masks. and one full face n95 respirator that 3m says is dispoable (should have paid more for the reusable cartridge one but oh well).

anyway, the masks i have are 3m brand and have a plastic valve. and 10 surgical masks. i have been putting the surgical mask over the n95 mask as per cdc guidelines. I have been storing in a ziplock bag (opened)

questions:

1. can i do the sterilization method in the oven with these masks (156*F @ 30 minutes) considering they have plastic valves?

2. if i'm going outside the house once a week for groceries, can i simply alternate between mask 1 and mask 2? Is there a # of days that I could use to alternate back and forth between these 2 masks? saving mask #3 for a close family member.

many thanks!
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(03-26-2020 06:38 PM)someone Wrote:  i have a total of 3 n95 masks (paper masks) cool flow masks. and one full face n95 respirator that 3m says is dispoable (should have paid more for the reusable cartridge one but oh well).

anyway, the masks i have are 3m brand and have a plastic valve. and 10 surgical masks. i have been putting the surgical mask over the n95 mask as per cdc guidelines. I have been storing in a ziplock bag (opened)

questions:

1. can i do the sterilization method in the oven with these masks (156*F @ 30 minutes) considering they have plastic valves?

2. if i'm going outside the house once a week for groceries, can i simply alternate between mask 1 and mask 2? Is there a # of days that I could use to alternate back and forth between these 2 masks? saving mask #3 for a close family member.

many thanks!

I do not have answers to your specific questions, but you can simply spray the outside of the masks with hydrogen peroxide at the end of each day and then just have them air dry. Even 0.50% hydrogen peroxide kills viruses within one minute.

BTW: You can dilute 3% hydrogen peroxide to 0.50%. It takes a minute to kill all viruses instead of killing on contact like 3%, but you can create six times as much hydrogen peroxide. I wrote about this in a prior post.
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Via the Vox Day thread. We are starting to see first hand information filtering in to the dissident Right from more and more sources.

Quote:An MD in New Orleans

One doctor's clinical perspective on fighting Corona-chan.

Quote:I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know.

Clinical course is predictable.
2-11 days after exposure (day 5 on average) flu-like symptoms start. Common are fever, headache, dry cough, myalgias(back pain), nausea without vomiting, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhea, loss of smell, anorexia, fatigue.

Day 5 of symptoms- increased SOB, and bilateral viral pneumonia from direct viral damage to lung parenchyma.

Day 10- Cytokine storm leading to acute ARDS and multiorgan failure. You can literally watch it happen in a matter of hours.

81% mild symptoms, 14% severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, 5% critical.

Patient presentation is varied. Patients are coming in hypoxic (even 75%) without dyspnea. I have seen Covid patients present with encephalopathy, renal failure from dehydration, DKA. I have seen the bilateral interstitial pneumonia on the xray of the asymptomatic shoulder dislocation or on the CT's of the (respiratory) asymptomatic polytrauma patient. Essentially if they are in my ER, they have it. Seen three positive flu swabs in 2 weeks and all three had Covid 19 as well. Somehow this ***** has told all other disease processes to get out of town.

China reported 15% cardiac involvement. I have seen covid 19 patients present with myocarditis, pericarditis, new onset CHF and new onset atrial fibrillation. I still order a troponin, but no cardiologist will treat no matter what the number in a suspected Covid 19 patient. Even our non covid 19 STEMIs at all of our facilities are getting TPA in the ED and rescue PCI at 60 minutes only if TPA fails.

It sounds like they need to implement the TrumpCure+ as soon as possible. And the early observers who observed the need to prevent the cytokine storm with massive doses of Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, and zinc appear to have been precisely on point.

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