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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Intersting:

Quote:A note on observations and news I've heard.

A friend of mine works at a hospital in Los Angeles. They are not currently overloaded- in fact quite the opposite. They have fewer patients than normal and they believe this is because most people are in fact staying home and only coming in true emergencies.


Also interesting when Atlanta Man mentions that most of his patients now in Miami are FOB South American immigrants/refugees. Miami is certainly diverse, but the diversity consists of locals of all ethnicities who should be able to speak English.

Possibly that they got a batch of new refugees and did not even inform the mayor of that.

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03-11-2020 06:00 AM
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
(03-11-2020 06:00 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Intersting:

Quote:A note on observations and news I've heard.

A friend of mine works at a hospital in Los Angeles. They are not currently overloaded- in fact quite the opposite. They have fewer patients than normal and they believe this is because most people are in fact staying home and only coming in true emergencies.

Also interesting when Atlanta Man mentions that most of his patients now in Miami are FOB South American immigrants/refugees. Miami is certainly diverse, but the diversity consists of locals of all ethnicities who should be able to speak English.

Possibly that they got a batch of new refugees and did not even inform the mayor of that.

I'm not too sure what it means but I'm having him give updates daily.
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
The news reports that attendance in Chinese restaurants has gone down about 50% since the Coronavirus scare. I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up saving more lives then are taken by the Coronavirus, because of all the people who will not get Diabetes II, hardened arteries, or heart disease.

Several years ago, I went to a Chinese restaurant and ordered orange chicken, which turned out to be overcooked. I got violently ill with a severe diarrhea. I lost so much water and electrolytes that I had excruciating painful muscle spasms all night in my legs. This was a wake up call. I realized how foolish I had been to put something in my mouth just because it tastes good. I stopped eating Chinese food and all other types of unhealthy food.

Orange chicken has to be one of the worst cases of awful food. The chicken is deep-fried in oil (fat), and the covered by a hard sugary coating. If it is overcooked it is like eating peaces of lead. The trick of Chinese food is to make low quality meat taste good by adding the things that the human body craves – fat and sugar, and if that isn’t enough, msg. If you put orange sauce on a piece of poop, people would eat it and say “yum, yum”. It is unhealthy for the human body, and will lower your immune system making you more susceptible to viruses.

Do a simple Google search, and see how many Chinese restaurants are closed by health inspectors.
This Chinese restaurant was closed when rat cages were found in the kitchen.
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2020...under-gun/

Chinese food in unhealthy.
https://www.foxnews.com/story/study-chin...-unhealthy
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17718517/ns/he...mj8FahKjIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNFIOxvkh-4

I haven’t had the flu in over 20 years. If you want to survive, then strengthen your immune system, because at some point you will be exposed to the virus. Let your immune system protect you.

1. Exercise daily. Walk everywhere and join a gym.
2. Strictly maintain your correct weight
3. Keep you mind and emotions healthy
4. Avoid Chinese food and other types of unhealthy food with fat and sugar.

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03-11-2020 10:23 AM
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Fat, speaking generally, is incredibly good for you. Nutritionally dense, and carries fat-soluble vitamins that you will not get any other way. Eat lots of fat. Just make that fat less refined industrial oils ("vegetable" oil) and more "natural" (meaningless word, I know, but go with the hand wavy definition) fats, saturated and monounsaturated, like grass-fed butter, fatty cuts of meat, fatty fish etc. The biggest and most pernicious nutritional lie of the modern era is the demonization of fat. We're still living with that and will be dealing with the consequences for generations.

(Also, keep that in mind one other issues when you're told "the science is settled". For decades "the science was settled" and people were told to be healthy they should eat lots of bread, pasta, and cereal.)
03-11-2020 11:41 AM
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
(03-11-2020 11:41 AM)kel Wrote:  Fat, speaking generally, is incredibly good for you. Nutritionally dense, and carries fat-soluble vitamins that you will not get any other way. Eat lots of fat. Just make that fat less refined industrial oils ("vegetable" oil) and more "natural" (meaningless word, I know, but go with the hand wavy definition) fats, saturated and monounsaturated, like grass-fed butter, fatty cuts of meat, fatty fish etc. The biggest and most pernicious nutritional lie of the modern era is the demonization of fat. We're still living with that and will be dealing with the consequences for generations.

(Also, keep that in mind one other issues when you're told "the science is settled". For decades "the science was settled" and people were told to be healthy they should eat lots of bread, pasta, and cereal.)

I realize there are going to be a lot of "ya buts" to my post, but I still believe the central point is valid. I decided to keep it short rather than answer all the objections. Of course, we need some fat to survive. We would die without it. But the excess amounts that appear in unhealthy foods is the problem.

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
(03-10-2020 07:56 PM)bacon Wrote:  I just want to thank posters who have contributed to this thread. It's amazing how people I consider awake to many of the conspiracies and lies the government tells us, have completely bought into the official corona virus narrative.

Yes. That is the nature of sheep merely dressed as wolves.

Without appropriately vetted testing, there is no way for people or doctors to know if a patient is presenting with a common flu or the zombie apocalypse Covid-19. But you can damn sure bet that it is getting reported as Covid-19.

I'm beginning to wonder if anyone has actually been diagnosed with the normal seasonal flu recently. It is STILL NORMAL FLU SEASON! Numbers do lie, especially when it's humans reporting them.

Let me be clear here. I am not a skeptic of the Covid-19 virus. It's as real as any other pathogen. But the narrative has every single flavor in a "panic the masses so we can have more control" government soup. And I too have been surprised at the number of people who are on all fours, lapping it up.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the "National Self Quarantine For Your Safety Act" passed to force business owners to pay all of their employees to sit at home and watch Netflix for 14 days.

So let me update the lessons we should learn here:


1. Panic is 100x as contagious as any flu and 1000x as dangerous.

2. In general, people across all demographics are very easily swayed by "reports" even in the absence of factual support. This includes individuals who otherwise claim to be above such weakness.

3. People, across all demographics, consistently fail to have any form of preparatory foresight regardless of how many times in the past they found themselves wishing they had such preparations.

4. As mentioned in the other thread - Governments are NEVER to be trusted. Government's motto is - "Never let a crisis (manufactured or not) go to waste." This is especially so in any situation where the Government can use the placation, "For your safety."

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
(03-11-2020 12:19 PM)Gradient Wrote:  It wouldn't surprise me to see the "National Self Quarantine For Your Safety Act" passed to force business owners to pay all of their employees to sit at home and watch Netflix for 14 days.


4. As mentioned in the other thread - Governments are NEVER to be trusted. Government's motto is - "Never let a crisis (manufactured or not) go to waste." This is especially so in any situation where the Government can use the placation, "For your safety."

And BAM! Before I could buy my 57th 100 pack of toilet paper...



"US House Covid-19 Economic Relief Bill To be Announced Wednesday With Floor Vote Thursday"


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-hou...e-thursday


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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Put me in "just the flu bro" camp. Yes, really bad and more deadly than normal, but nothing approaching actual pandemics that have gripped the world.

Let us take the numerator (number of deaths) at face value.

The denominator, total number of recognized infected, is obviously a totally useless, dogshit number that has no basis in reality due to the limited scope of testing. Therefore, there is not a useful data point on mortality.
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
The problem is not the mortality rate. Its the hospitalization rate. And if national health systems can cope with them. Which they can’t.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/10/simp...-covid-19/

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I'll look into this tread, in a month.
I hope it'll age well.
I really do.
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(03-11-2020 01:03 PM)Troller Wrote:  The problem is not the mortality rate. Its the hospitalization rate. And if national health systems can cope with them. Which they can’t.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/10/simp...-covid-19/

Yeah - I read about the "hospitalization" among the c-virus patients in Germany. In that one first group of the first patient they were all in hospitals, but none of them needed to be in hospitals. The guy had opened a Whatsapp group with dozens of patients and people he had contact to. None - literally none of them would be in the hospital were it not for the positive PCR-test results. So hospitalization means jack shit without honest stats and we don't have that except for some preliminary supposed results.

The same for the Diamond Princess "hospitalization" - quarantine in hospitals while at worst they had a cold. Patients just waited it out with only the usual people dying as they die on cruises (most ships have 2-15 deaths per month with thousands of passangers due to the advanced age - so it's natural deaths).

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Major area hospital had seven (7) reported cases of Covid-19 Tuesday. This count was reflected in the "official" state by state count.

Today, ALL 7 patients were released from the hospital - NEGATIVE for COVID-19. This information is coming directly from senior ICU staff.

Would anyone like to bet that count does not change?

Panic evidently causes the Covid-19 infection.

03-12-2020 07:55 AM
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I watched the data from the Diamond Princess because that one couple who was super-healthy did an interview on TV. They said that half the people had zero symptoms, but but the PCR test got triggered. Half the people could have been called healthy virtually instantly. They save their face by raising the incubation period from 4-7 days to 14 days or 24 days, but that was mostly ignored. How about you sheisters go and raise the incubation period to 2-12 years like with Hep C? Because then you can say that you all got, but no one can prove anything, but we can give you all the vaccines and AIDS meds you want.

Vitamin C will work on all of those diseases that are adjacent to colds/flus/pneumonia, so I am not surprised that it works.

In any given year every Western country has 3-15% of the population going through one of those diseases every year. Out of those millions a few of the old and weak will die. People die during winter far more even if they never leave the care home even in summer. Early spring is also a time for more frequent deaths.

I don't know what they are up to, but it's nothing good:

   

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(03-12-2020 07:55 AM)Gradient Wrote:  Major area hospital had seven (7) reported cases of Covid-19 Tuesday. This count was reflected in the "official" state by state count.

Today, ALL 7 patients were released from the hospital - NEGATIVE for COVID-19. This information is coming directly from senior ICU staff.

Would anyone like to bet that count does not change?

Panic evidently causes the Covid-19 infection.

I also noted that they are quick to report the uptick, but slow the recovered rate.

Also an interesting part - a few countries in Europe said something of that sort:


The same for Poland - this one official said that Poland got 44 cases now and will have 1000+ cases in 2-3 days.

How the fuck do those sheisters know that? What's the science behind that? Are they just bloody reading the WHO estimates?

Fucking A...... What kind of bollocks is this?

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
The stock market just halted again. This is so surreal. Trump’s fearful speech was worthless.

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Not Worried

I won't worry until 49,000 people have died.

More than 200,000 people are hospitalized each year in the United States for the flu illness and its complications and between 3,000 and 49,000 people die each year from the flu. The number of flu deaths every year varies.

This is Globo Homo at its best, in my opinion.

We have some rough DJs on talk radio in the Washington DC area and, not those, but the mild nice guys are getting upset that the New York Times (Founded 1851) is lecturing and berating the CDC, the CDC. They printed an article that disparages the CDC and they want everyone tuning into them, the Times, into their reporting and only their reporting.

So do you listen to Globo Homo New York Times?
Or
CDC?

Secondly, on Foxnews or some reliable source a Famous Doctor said "Within 3 to 4 months we could have 463,000 US Deaths."

He actually said that ...

Or we could have 5,000.

For the record, I don't believe we'll come even close to those numbers of deaths. "What is your evidence?" Well I knew the FISA Court was wrong and tricked before Andrew C. McCarthy knew ... gut feeling and I was right. He was saying, "No way, no way, is the FISA court easily duped."

So back to the famous Doctor; he is saying that we'll have 10 times the number of Flu deaths but in the next 4 months.

I can't listen to Milquetoast doctors that rely on the Main stream media (CNN/ABC/DNC/CBS/NBC/NYtimes/WashPost/NPR/AppleNews/GoogleNews/Yahoo/NewYorker/ETC.) which for 3 years told us that Trump would be removed from office [alah, Peter Struck Stroke Smirk, FISA Courts (I knew they were wrong from the beginning), Carter Page railroaded falsely charged, Flynn railroaded falsely charged, Hillary not charged, Roger Stone treated like an assassin, "Crooked Cops" Trump quote, McCabe, Comey, Obama, Burisma holdings $$$ CASH Money, ...

Someone could use that as song lyrics, Mint Chip probably already did so.

On February 5, 2020, the Senate acquitted Trump on both counts.

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
An average of 100 people die every day in the US from auto accidents. So far 11 deaths have been confirmed in the US from the coronavirus. But yet people are willing to destroy the entire economy over 11 deaths. This shows you the power of fear fueled by predictions. In the imagination, the deaths can be infinite. Driving a car is actually extremely dangerous, but we accept it as a normal part of life. Because we are use to it and thus have lost fear (we actually don’t have enough fear in this case). We fear the unknown.

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
(03-12-2020 08:49 AM)Mike_Key Wrote:  Not Worried

I won't worry until 49,000 people have died.

More than 200,000 people are hospitalized each year in the United States for the flu illness and its complications and between 3,000 and 49,000 people die each year from the flu. The number of flu deaths every year varies.

This is Globo Homo at its best, in my opinion.

Completely agree. Because the media rarely shines any light on the normal flu, there's little awareness that tens of thousands of people quietly die from it yearly. I don't fully trust the CDC, but it's one of the only sources avialable on this issue. Here's the data from last year's flu season:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

Quote:CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza
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(03-12-2020 11:36 AM)Sherman Wrote:  An average of 100 people die every day in the US from auto accidents. So far 11 deaths have been confirmed in the US from the coronavirus. But yet people are willing to destroy the entire economy over 11 deaths. This shows you the power of fear fueled by predictions. In the imagination, the deaths can be infinite. Driving a car is actually extremely dangerous, but we accept it as a normal part of life. Because we are use to it and thus have lost fear (we actually don’t have enough fear in this case). We fear the unknown.

The fear in this case was utilized by the "right" people to instigate what is happening right now in the financial world. It's a get out of jail free card for insanely over valued markets, and those who pumped those markets.

   

I really do not see how it gets much clearer. The Covid-19 virus was simply a tool that was too good to pass up. This is about a blame-free market correction.

No one will be held accountable because it was all because of the 2020 Black Death virus that has left the streets completely free of dead bodies.

A lot of bankers could not love the Covid-19 virus and the panicky masses of the most gullible breed more!

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I'll be honest. I'm surprised this virus has grabbed the forum in the way that it has. Precaution should always be the answer when it comes to protecting yourself and your family, but I suspect the year of 2020 will have no uptick in death rates in comparison to previous years. It simply doesnt pass the sniff test. Here's hoping I'm right.
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(03-11-2020 06:00 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Intersting:

Quote:A note on observations and news I've heard.

A friend of mine works at a hospital in Los Angeles. They are not currently overloaded- in fact quite the opposite. They have fewer patients than normal and they believe this is because most people are in fact staying home and only coming in true emergencies.


Also interesting when Atlanta Man mentions that most of his patients now in Miami are FOB South American immigrants/refugees. Miami is certainly diverse, but the diversity consists of locals of all ethnicities who should be able to speak English.

Possibly that they got a batch of new refugees and did not even inform the mayor of that.

Have you ever been to Miami? If you can only speak one language there you're better off only speaking Spanish than English. Im not joking. You dont really need English in Miami (I was born there and went to uni there and Ive been saying that all my life)

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(03-12-2020 02:11 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Have you ever been to Miami? If you can only speak one language there you're better off only speaking Spanish than English. Im not joking. You dont really need English in Miami (I was born there and went to uni there and Ive been saying that all my life)

LA was getting that way just before I left.

I recently visited my southern Georgia relatives, NEVER thought I'd see Spanish billboards in a small town in Georgia where people still fly the confederate flag. By pure coincidence, the crime rate has skyrocketed in recent years.
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(03-12-2020 01:48 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  I'll be honest. I'm surprised this virus has grabbed the forum in the way that it has. Precaution should always be the answer when it comes to protecting yourself and your family, but I suspect the year of 2020 will have no uptick in death rates in comparison to previous years. It simply doesnt pass the sniff test. Here's hoping I'm right.

I think it'll be a little higher but, if you listen to the media (and some forum members), it's the return of the plague.
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(03-11-2020 06:00 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Intersting:

Quote:A note on observations and news I've heard.

A friend of mine works at a hospital in Los Angeles. They are not currently overloaded- in fact quite the opposite. They have fewer patients than normal and they believe this is because most people are in fact staying home and only coming in true emergencies.


Also interesting when Atlanta Man mentions that most of his patients now in Miami are FOB South American immigrants/refugees. Miami is certainly diverse, but the diversity consists of locals of all ethnicities who should be able to speak English.

Possibly that they got a batch of new refugees and did not even inform the mayor of that.

Have you ever been to Miami? If you can only speak one language there you're better off only speaking Spanish than English. Im not joking. You dont really need English in Miami (I was born there and went to uni there and Ive been saying that all my life)

I have been in the 1990s - did not seem that bad back then - stayed later mostly in West Palm Beach and there you definitely were fine with English.

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(03-12-2020 01:48 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  I'll be honest. I'm surprised this virus has grabbed the forum in the way that it has. Precaution should always be the answer when it comes to protecting yourself and your family, but I suspect the year of 2020 will have no uptick in death rates in comparison to previous years. It simply doesnt pass the sniff test. Here's hoping I'm right.

Men come to different conclusions in times of uncertainty - most guys mistrust the media and establishment.

That means with corona-chan you either fall on 2 sides:
A) "believe it's much worse and they are lying to us" or
B) "believe it's even less or close to nothing or a con"

Guys fall to one of those - masculine men generally prefer to be ready. They are the kind of guys who you want to be next to in the case of a real Zombie apocalypse.

Most of us fall into those 2 categories since we don't trust the media, many are Zombie-collapse-apocalypse ready, so it's not unlogical that they would pick the side of prepping and munition collecting.

I mistrust the entire medical establishment due to having dabbled with it for years.

The good part is that vitamin C megadosing is real and at least in the future men won't have to fear pneumonia or other viral or bacterial agents. In fact they could even become immune to the Zombia apocalypse if one comes.

Anyway - I don't mind that this thread is more for voicing doubts. I don't think less of the men who mistrust the media from the other side.

Vitamin C Megadosing: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74755.html
03-12-2020 04:39 PM
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