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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Half of the "infected" have zero symptoms.

WE have thousands of viruses in our body. I could pick one that is spread to 1 bio. people and test it all with the PCR test which takes miniscule versions. Then everyone who dies is said to have died because of the virus despite the average death age of 70 and all 25 year olds barely being aware that they had anything.

300 people died in one month since it went "global". Meanwhile hundreds of thousands had contact with people who had contact with the Wuhan epicenter.

And no one bloody mentions that they have 53000 recovered in China - does not matter since they obviously are lying and millions are dead there already.

This is getting increasingly mindboggling. The media and even the virus-cult-infatuated WHO is being accused of doing nothing when those buggers scream murder when 2 people die off some pesticides which they then claim that it was a virus. The fuckers quarantine sometimes 500 people for 1 "infected" with zero symptoms in Europe now.

I follow up the cases released in central Europe and almost everyone except the very old (70-88) feels fine.

How will you stop the spread of the thousands of viruses in our bodies? How do you differentiate between real cause of pneumonia and just one of those thousands of viruses being barely present there.

The WHO criticized the Austrians for applying scientific methods and not just the mere 50 molecules presence of a coronavirus in the body. Why? Because that is how causation is defined and the rules created by Robert Koch are valid to this day.

Kary Mullis who created the PCR test later criticized heavily this usage especially in virology. It does not prove causation at all - just a mere presence of a virus does not mean that it caused that person to get pneumonia. That is not the scientific method and I feel that this is how they run with it - the virus may indeed spread to 80% of the world population and the reality is that it may not result in any more deaths than usually happen. Just as it happens with any other flu.

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03-05-2020 10:53 AM
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
(03-05-2020 10:53 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Half of the "infected" have zero symptoms.

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Kary Mullis who created the PCR test later criticized heavily this usage especially in virology. It does not prove causation at all - just a mere presence of a virus does not mean that it caused that person to get pneumonia. That is not the scientific method and I feel that this is how they run with it - the virus may indeed spread to 80% of the world population and the reality is that it may not result in any more deaths than usually happen. Just as it happens with any other flu.

"Facts" and "science" don't matter when, instead, you can have emotional rants about dying grandmothers!

Today, 4800 people will be told they have cancer in the US.
Today, 1600 people will die from cancer.

In the last 40 days, 100 people were told they had the flu.

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Would the map of 5G installation match the map of cases ?
Example : there is no 5G in X country , they only have 1 or 2 cases ?
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Iran and Egypt don't have a lot of Gs...

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Iran might have, as per the link I posted earlier. We'll have to see how it plays out in other countries that definitely don't have 5g. Anyway 5g is just speculation. What's not speculation is that the virus narrative is being used to step up all the NWO nonsense.

Six Reasons Why Covid-19 Fails The Sniff Test

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/six-rea...sniff-test
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
< Good article - the globalist achieve a lot even if it's a biowarfare virus that they know will quickly mutate into something more bening or at best flu-adjacent.

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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
I'm wary about anything on Zerohedge these days - they were better before; I think they might have been sold or taken over by a new group of writers.

Regardless, they've been affiliated with a lot of the same gold bug fear merchants who sold us on Armageddonomics back in 2008. I mean in particular, anything associated with the name Stansberry "research" is suspect crap trying to sell you subscriptions to hype. Now they're pumping up a lot of BS about coronavirus and trying to rekindle the bury gold in the backyard mentality. Absent more actual evidence I'm staying skeptical.

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Yeah, true... zerohedge has definitely seen better days. They're straight up fear mongers now, cherry-picking the worst data and then writing the worst possible interpretations of that data.

But now they're just being contrarian. A month ago the MSM was down playing the virus (which helped spread it... food for thought there). Now the MSM is stoking major panic and zerohedge is like... wait a minute guys.

He makes valid points in that article... and a bunch of dumb conclusions too. But the whole thing is very convenient for the NWO for a slew of reasons. A little too convenient.
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I would say the hysteria is based on a myriad of factors which have snowballed. China probably have something to hide. The media make money. Both sides of the political spectrum weaponize it. Egotistical doctors get t.v facetime, conspiracy theorists with a 30min knowledge of biology read too much into it and ultimately panic sets in over the flu.



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Yeah - Zerohedge did a lot of flip-flopping and hysteria-pushing. Now when the panic is somewhat rising, he goes against it.

You gotta stay true to your convictions - either write what you think to be the truth or go fully down the mercurial/unethical path.

The article raises good points, but he said the opposite a few weeks ago. And as for economic doomsdayers - they will be right once or twice a decade, but it's all about the timing not be constant bear. You will lose that way a fortune in the bullish years in between.

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(03-05-2020 03:02 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Yeah - Zerohedge did a lot of flip-flopping and hysteria-pushing. Now when the panic is somewhat rising, he goes against it.
To be fair... in late January / early February I also thought this is going to be very bad. Based on the data we had at the time (disease with an R0 anywhere between 2.6 and 6.x... contagious during an asymptomatic 2-3 week incubation period, with a 20% hospitalization rate).

But the longer this story goes on, the less it All adds up. You could look at the data in late Jan / early Feb and very clearly predict a pandemic. The top guys at Harvard were saying that too.

Yet the media was downplaying it, and governments weren't doing almost anything to stop global spread. Why? Are they ALL too stupid to read data this simple? All of them? Really? Clearly the powers that be wanted it to spread.

Now that this has been accomplished, they're pushing the panic button and whipping the cattle into a frenzy. So they'll all agree to more liberties being taken away: forced vaccinations, cashless society, more censorship, more surveillance, less liberties, less rights.

I'm not sure about the whole story yet, but we'll piece that together with time. One thing seems certain... this is all deliberate and part of their agenda.
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RE: Skeptics of Coronovirus thread
Ole Dammegard has been on Red Ice a bunch of times... he's one of the best guys to follow for info on false flags and such. Great interview with him about Corona (that topic starts 34 minutes in):

https://vimeo.com/393190268
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(03-05-2020 05:18 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  Ole Dammegard has been on Red Ice a bunch of times... he's one of the best guys to follow for info on false flags and such. Great interview with him about Corona (that topic starts 34 minutes in):

https://vimeo.com/393190268

(03-05-2020 05:24 PM)Trumps Intern Wrote:  https://aim4truth.org/2020/02/28/coronav...bombshell/

---This theory of coronavirus implicates the Pilgrim's Society and English royalty. This makes sense if we recall the random British dude's predictions.

This is excellent.

Look at that from 18.10.2019 - pandemic simulation calling literally THE CORONAVIRUS TO START IN BRAZIL. It started in China in January.





What the fuck are they doing?

What is even real?

Wuhan is fully operational - aside from quarantine, people get permits to go shopping, then go back to their appartments. Sit around until it blows over.

But be very afraid! And surrender all your rights!

It's even possible that it's just a cold virus, not even a flu.

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All this bullshit is just so rich fat fucks, homos, women, and tribal butt buddies can do whatever they want to their benefit and everyone else's detriment. It was always about control, it IS about control, it will always be about control.

None of these meatbags dressed up in any of these events could handle survival or cqc, so they craft a world where everything is dependent upon them and their leisure. Their arrogance and pompousness is more than overwhelming.

More and more manufactured dialectic three steps on the way, until we as a collective tell them all to fuck right off. Everything until they can decide who lives, who dies, who gets to eat, who gets to suffer.

5G is still linked to it. It's the weapon they are using in lieu of their flabby and doughy bodies being unable to bring about control in the physical sense, so they must rely on deception and trickery to deceive the masses. And yes Simeon it is most likely just another cold, one of millions already proliferating.

You can't cheat nature.
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You know, I don’t believe that 5g can cause cancer, but at least to a lay person I could see how it’s within the realm of possibilities, since cancer is caused by random mutations resulting in uncontrolled growth. But the idea that 5g can somehow create a virus is just baffling. Who knows, maybe 6g will create mosquitos.
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Been gone a few years. What's this forum turned into, conspiracy nutters and woo religion talk? Fuuuuuuuuuu ?
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(03-05-2020 09:17 PM)Repo Wrote:  You know, I don’t believe that 5g can cause cancer, but at least to a lay person I could see how it’s within the realm of possibilities, since cancer is caused by random mutations resulting in uncontrolled growth. But the idea that 5g can somehow create a virus is just baffling. Who knows, maybe 6g will create mosquitos.

Viruses can cause certain cancers, and 5G can theoretically amplify that action.

As well it is well known that EMFs can cause certain cancers. Electric blankets for instance cause leukemia.

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For the skeptics calling this Coronavirus a "hoax": how do you explain such wide-spread co-ordination between numerous countries in the world at multiple levels from the highest levels of government all the way down to the front-line health workers?
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Lol repo nobody is saying 5g creates viruses. You gotta actually read what's being posted.

Also, I don't think anyone says that virus doesn't exist at all.
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(03-05-2020 11:55 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  For the skeptics calling this Coronavirus a "hoax": how do you explain such wide-spread co-ordination between numerous countries in the world at multiple levels from the highest levels of government all the way down to the front-line health workers?

How do you explain the same for Global Warming, environmentalism, renewable energy etc.?
How do you explain all world leaders meeting up in Davos and listening to a child telling us how we need to take action NOW!

A "hoax" doesn't mean it's purely made up, just that the panic is exaggerated purposefully and the people offering measures to "protect us" have ulterior motives (not letting a crisis, real or manufactured, go to waste).

Even if just a select few know it's mostly exaggerated, all you need is for enough low-level people to buy into it and actually believe that this is a crisis, they will take actions to coordinate a response, which is what you're seeing now.

Even if you don't believe the virus is that bad, the panic has its own very real and tangible effects on the market and policies - disruptions to trade, costs of business going up, people not coming into work etc. on a global level.
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(03-05-2020 11:55 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  For the skeptics calling this Coronavirus a "hoax": how do you explain such wide-spread co-ordination between numerous countries in the world at multiple levels from the highest levels of government all the way down to the front-line health workers?

What coordination?

You have thousands of viruses in the body.
You pick on and say that it's super-deadly.
You test it with PCR which finds trace amounts.
The 16000 seasonal flu deaths in the US alone will then be instantly called to be cause by this one virus if the PCR test gets triggered.

The real studies done on whatever that that is can be controlled in a few places.

As for the WHO and almost all governmental CDCs in each country - they meet all the time, they essentially are one.

It's not that it cannot be done - it can.

You don't have to coordinate every MD, hospital and nurse. They get their information from above and react accordingly. Even if they don't see a radical rise in deaths or sick people - when they simply are told that this patient who otherwise would have been a run-of-the-mill bloke with the flu/cold/pneumonia - suddenly has the super-deadly coronavirus then they will act highly different.
Even if that bloke has only the sniffles, he will be treated like a medieval leper and everyone who had contact with him as well.

You can even easily manipulate the stats, because it's all collected and not one person has the ability to collect the data on the ground and check them up.

Whatever....

You have countries with 60 mio. like Italy 110 people dying of pneumonia - most being above 70, the first bloke was 88. Give me a break - without the PCR test you could also say that this is life, because it is.

There are reports from locals in Wuhan who think that the epicenter is in Korea. The media tells them that it's somewhere else and since they are not dying like flies and the quarantine is mostly an enforced stay at home with daily shopping trips in between, then they believe it.

Flu season is soon over but of course people will continue to die of pneumonia millions per year worldwide - most people being old or sick. When this number doubles or triples, then we can talk of something new. Otherwise I consider it more a con than anything else.

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Name one warm advanced country that has the spread of the disease.

You can't. Singapore still has some 100 cases with almost everyone at home. They had contact with thousands of people and tens of thousands by proxy. Even if they self-quarantine, it's an extremely densely populated country.

Does anyone honestly believe that a country like Nigeria could prevent anything? They would have 10 mio. dead before they would get their shit together. Singapore has it under great control, but how is that even possible? They don't have any draconian measures. But what they have is warm non-flu causing weather.

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It's interesting how a majority of the forum can see an agenda behind global warming etc, but get suckered into the same panic/manipulation the elites are milking from this flu strain.
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The elites are obviously going to milk this disaster like they milk all disasters. They are definitely glass-half-full people which is part of the reason they're so rich and powerful.

But them milking a disaster doesn't mean there isn't a disaster.

I'm curious. Do the skeptics believe the black plague of the 1300s actually occurred or do they believe it's all made up?

Do you believe that man-made viruses are capable of causing tens or hundreds of millions of deaths?

Do you believe it's possible that a state or non state actor would ever release such a virus? Do you believe it could happen accidentally?

I'm asking because I'm interested in the mindset behind the skepticism. Do people believe that a current serious pandemic is literally impossible or do they believe that it's possible, it's just not happening at the moment with this particular virus?

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