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What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
(02-28-2020 07:47 PM)Travola Wrote:  I live in a somewhat rural area. There is just not much to do. For one, the country is depopulating in rural areas. The population is aging too. While there may be people my age in mid-size towns and cities, not so in rural areas. I strongly suspect that men outnumber women as well, and, most women are overweight. One positive I guess, is that slut-shaming is prevalent and people know well who the slut is, the alcoholic, the girl sleeping with her boss, the pill popper, etc. There is so value to knowing all those things.

But, I still at the end of the day crave the anonymity of the city.

As far as culture is concerned, there are all these county music groupies, crappy classic, 80's era, rock, and limited options.

At the end of the day, you have to take risks when you're a young guy, and follow the action.

With that in mind I see myself having a rural estate one day, but unless someone is going MGTOW, I don't understand the appeal.

Yes, about taking risks. I more or less escaped the rat race as a young man. I just worked enough to save up for my next adventure, saw the world and its women, learned several languages, had a great time. I should have socked away some of that money for retirement but even though I didn't, I can't say I regret spending my youth that way. Wine and milk. A woman who had conducted herself like me would be screwed at this point, but I managed to meet a good, much younger Christian girl and get married and have a few kids. It's a good life, even though I'm totally stuck in the US office job rat race for now and probably will be at least until I'm in my 70s.

It is what it is. I'm still glad I got to all those things when I was young. I'm not really sharing this as advice for younger guys, just something to think about.

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02-29-2020 01:07 PM
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
I think the best place to live is 20 minutes outside a medium-sized city. Something like Cleveland (I've never been there, not promoting it specifically, but size-wise). Usually smaller cities like that drop off quite quickly - there's the city, some suburban sprawl, and then it becomes open and pastoral quite quickly. This way, you can have the space and privacy, but also have access to a city with the things you need.

(02-29-2020 12:07 PM)Travola Wrote:  The problem I'm faced with living in the middle of nowhere is that I'm 20+ minutes from the nearest grocery store, there are no good jobs within 20 minutes, there are no women, and there's only two bars I can easily get to within 20 minutes. And they're both full of old boomers.

This is indeed an issue, one that I'm facing as I look to move out to the country. My goal, which is not easy, is to convince several others to move with me. People who want out of the degeneracy and rat-race, but don't know any other lifestyle and need some help. If you can bring a community with you you have a distinct advantage in terms of both manpower (peoplekindpower?) for the concrete stuff that needs to be done, the economic advantage of economy of scale, and equally important you have the sanity and emotional health that comes from having daily interaction with close friends.

It's not going to be easy, but this is how I'm going to do it.
02-29-2020 01:59 PM
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
Quote:This is indeed an issue, one that I'm facing as I look to move out to the country. My goal, which is not easy, is to convince several others to move with me. People who want out of the degeneracy and rat-race, but don't know any other lifestyle and need some help. If you can bring a community with you you have a distinct advantage in terms of both manpower (peoplekindpower?) for the concrete stuff that needs to be done, the economic advantage of economy of scale, and equally important you have the sanity and emotional health that comes from having daily interaction with close friends.

It's not going to be easy, but this is how I'm going to do it.

Moving out of the country-- why not Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, etc? Cost of living not high at all, no need for residency.

I do you not think you will find anyone that will move abroad with you.
02-29-2020 03:49 PM
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
Unfortunately, I have a "rat race" job and will do so for the foreseeable future. The key is finding something that is at least somewhat meaningful/profitable, which I am working on.

Besides that, I have made a lot of progress in the last few years such as:

- Prepare my own food, all healthy organic ingredients (lots of veggies and grass fed beef or fish for protein)
- Prayer and meditation every day
- Critical thinking -- reading philosophy and approaching life with a foundation of wisdom and logic
- No TV fearporn and no actual porn
- Exercising
- Constantly learning through podcasts, reading, stimulating environments and travel
- Cut down from toxic people. Now I just need to make some new connections.
- Frugal lifestyle. Goes well with stoic and simplistic mindset.
- Making progress in forgiving everybody.

Things I am aiming for in the next 10 years:

- Buying land, starting a homestead kind of thing.
- Moving out of the hectic Northeast
- Finding the right woman to start a family with.
- Keep growing and improving in mind, body, and spirit.
- Learning some new skills, carpentry, a musical instrument, getting better at gardening/growing food, making herbal medicine.
- Evolving my writing skills so I have some work to share or even publish.
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
(02-29-2020 03:49 PM)Travola Wrote:  
Quote:This is indeed an issue, one that I'm facing as I look to move out to the country. My goal, which is not easy, is to convince several others to move with me. People who want out of the degeneracy and rat-race, but don't know any other lifestyle and need some help. If you can bring a community with you you have a distinct advantage in terms of both manpower (peoplekindpower?) for the concrete stuff that needs to be done, the economic advantage of economy of scale, and equally important you have the sanity and emotional health that comes from having daily interaction with close friends.

It's not going to be easy, but this is how I'm going to do it.

Moving out of the country-- why not Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, etc? Cost of living not high at all, no need for residency.

I do you not think you will find anyone that will move abroad with you.

Cost of living not high at all in Alaska? That's news to me. What part of Alaska are you referring to?
03-01-2020 01:13 AM
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(02-29-2020 01:07 PM)bucky Wrote:  
(02-28-2020 07:47 PM)Travola Wrote:  I live in a somewhat rural area. There is just not much to do. For one, the country is depopulating in rural areas. The population is aging too. While there may be people my age in mid-size towns and cities, not so in rural areas. I strongly suspect that men outnumber women as well, and, most women are overweight. One positive I guess, is that slut-shaming is prevalent and people know well who the slut is, the alcoholic, the girl sleeping with her boss, the pill popper, etc. There is so value to knowing all those things.

But, I still at the end of the day crave the anonymity of the city.

As far as culture is concerned, there are all these county music groupies, crappy classic, 80's era, rock, and limited options.

At the end of the day, you have to take risks when you're a young guy, and follow the action.

With that in mind I see myself having a rural estate one day, but unless someone is going MGTOW, I don't understand the appeal.

Yes, about taking risks. I more or less escaped the rat race as a young man. I just worked enough to save up for my next adventure, saw the world and its women, learned several languages, had a great time. I should have socked away some of that money for retirement but even though I didn't, I can't say I regret spending my youth that way. Wine and milk. A woman who had conducted herself like me would be screwed at this point, but I managed to meet a good, much younger Christian girl and get married and have a few kids. It's a good life, even though I'm totally stuck in the US office job rat race for now and probably will be at least until I'm in my 70s.

It is what it is. I'm still glad I got to all those things when I was young. I'm not really sharing this as advice for younger guys, just something to think about.

From reading the beginning of your post... and then getting to the bolded part... a shiver went down my spine!!! Isn't there a needs based business you could start to possibly avoid going down this road? I know it's way easier to be an armchair business counselor... but why not at least try! From my perspective... it ain't that different from approaching the 10 that everybody's staying away from... in order to chat with the 7!

Learning The languages... getting the women... those are skills that very few Men even have the B***s to start doing! That's the area I feel retired PUA / Game Guys can really thrive in... since all the mental work's been done before by studying Game.

To be honest... with automation coming soon near us... planning on keeping an office job til retirement age scares me wayyy more than attempting to start a needs based business!
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
Hello everyone!

It seems I cannot post a new thread (yet).
Has any of you thought or has information about investing in property in Venezuela? (10-15 years return - for your pension or for your children)

I am aware that I would loose everything if the political regime creates a huge crisis.

Cheers!
03-09-2020 12:27 PM
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
Unfortunately, I am very much part of the rat-race
03-09-2020 01:16 PM
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
26 at the moment, Have 30k Student Debt. If things go right I can pay it off by the end of the year. I will be 27. Working a basic office job and flipping used games and stuff on the side once in a while.

I want to establish some sort of business. But there are just so many expenses in the west which that keep a person from reaching. Insurances, regulations, employee laws, Health Insurance. Taxes.

I think the developing world South East Asia has a much easier time starting something new, And is why many friends I have from Vietnam or china all own small business because they don't have regulations, don't have to hire 50% women, don't have to have an HR department and so on.
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
- Living below my means
- Saving for another property
- Investing in stocks/ETFs (Well right now they aren't doing too well)
03-14-2020 08:52 PM
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RE: What are you doing to escape the rat-race?
I started a new job in auto parts (never imagined myself doing this) at this age.

It is by far my favorite job I've had in the past several years.

There is no politics (office politics) and I'm learning skills about cars that I'll have for the rest of my life.

Also, there is no intrusive HR department. I've never been so happy, and I'm just basically paid to help people get stuff for their cars. I won't be doing this for the rest of my life. But it feels good man.

The last job I had was so much stress I would come home stressed out and drink or do other stuff to detoxify.

In the meantime I'm learning Python and planning on becoming a developer. If Corona worsens, that just means I'll have more time to learn Python.
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