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RE: The carnivore diet thread
I have found raw beef liver becoming addictive and sweeter and sweeter each time i eat it.

I highly suggest raw beef liver.

I eat about 1/2 a kilo per week.
01-18-2020 07:39 PM
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RE: The carnivore diet thread
You're not concerned about raw meat being a vector for disease or infection?

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01-19-2020 01:30 AM
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RE: The carnivore diet thread
I tried raw beef liver (quick sear outside) and I still can't stand it (more slimy, less metalic). Mixinng liver with ground beef to make meatballs makes it palatable.

The biggest concern about eating raw meat is parasites, which is why you should not eat chicken or pork rare. Some parasites are killed with freezing, but most bacterial contamination will survive years of freezing. Since bacterial contamination of raw meats are on the outside, you can reduce the risk by quickly searing them.

Moving forward though, considering that every cattle goes through the same processing houses, I would not eat anything raw, except for seafood. There are many cases of food poisoning from eating raw beef. Besides, we've discovered fire 1.5 million years ago, there's evidence that cooked food increase nutrition availability.
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01-19-2020 08:06 AM
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RE: The carnivore diet thread
I feel amazing eating raw beef liver!

Its worth the perceived risk. I try to eat it fresh to mitigate any potential contamination.

The more i eat it, the more i crave it.
01-19-2020 02:53 PM
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RE: The carnivore diet thread
(01-19-2020 08:06 AM)Lone Wolf Wrote:  I tried raw beef liver (quick sear outside) and I still can't stand it (more slimy, less metalic). Mixinng liver with ground beef to make meatballs makes it palatable.

Is it grassfed or conventional?

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01-20-2020 12:01 PM
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(01-18-2020 07:39 PM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  I have found raw beef liver becoming addictive and sweeter and sweeter each time i eat it.

I highly suggest raw beef liver.

I eat about 1/2 a kilo per week.

That's a lot. I just a few bits of raw beef liver. The interesting thing about beef is that in most of the countries of the world beef is edible without risk in raw form. Beef tartar is just applied to certain parts of beef, but turns out that you can eat almost anything.

Though it's true that liver, then kidney or bone marrow can be more tricky as more toxins accumulate, so the grass-fed free-range beef is safe while the other one not so much. But compared to chicken or pork, then beef is exceedingly safe in raw form.

They do eat beef, horse and other meats raw in some countries. I tested out lower quality beef raw, but wouldn't rcommend it - you can feel that the body needs more time to digest. Even experimented with a bit of raw chicken which is passable. Pork is where you have to draw the line - organic or not does not matter.

Oh - and one way to limit the amount of potential parasites is to simple freeze the beef liver, then eat it raw after defrosting. The taste in this case doesn't matter much. An easy way for amateur sushi cooks is to simply freeze a fish - that way you are certain to have safe raw fish.
01-20-2020 12:59 PM
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RE: The carnivore diet thread
No point in eating beef raw, you can have a steak cooked very rare, mostly raw on the inside, still getting any benefits from raw meat, while getting the great taste of caramelized meat on the outside. This also kills off most bacteria.

Chicken liver tastes better than beef liver, it's great in salad with frisée lettuce and lardons (pan-fried diced pork belly, or thick bacon). You just sear the livers for half a minute keeping them pink inside, add diced shallots and deglaze with raspberry, sherry or red wine vinegar, serve over frisée (curly) lettuce with a basic vinaigrette, done in 15-20 min:





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RE: The carnivore diet thread
(01-20-2020 12:01 PM)whitewashedblackguy Wrote:  
(01-19-2020 08:06 AM)Lone Wolf Wrote:  I tried raw beef liver (quick sear outside) and I still can't stand it (more slimy, less metalic). Mixinng liver with ground beef to make meatballs makes it palatable.

Is it grassfed or conventional?

organic beef, pretty sure not grassfed.

Also, toxins accumulate in the fats, not so much organ meats.
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(01-18-2020 07:39 PM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  I have found raw beef liver becoming addictive and sweeter and sweeter each time i eat it.

I highly suggest raw beef liver.

I eat about 1/2 a kilo per week.

Eating raw meat?

What could possibly go wrong...
01-23-2020 06:26 PM
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(01-23-2020 06:26 PM)Elmore Wrote:  Eating raw meat?

What could possibly go wrong...

It's really not that dangerous. I wouldn't do it with ground chuck from the supermarket, but I've done it with a nice slab from the butcher. If you're paranoid, cut off the outside and cook that and just use the inside that hasn't been exposed to the world.

That said, I don't necessarily believe raw meat is preferable, health wise, to cooked. If anything I'd be inclined to believe the opposite. Who knows with liver, though.
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In theory you only have to get it to pasteurization temperature but the question remains whether you're also destroying the properties that make it an effective nutritional supplement. I might ask my butcher about this today.

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01-23-2020 09:40 PM
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Humans evolved for a long time eating raw (or rotten) meat.

Im eating mostly ruminant meats. I sear steak because i like the taste but the center is cool and raw. Otherwise ive started eating raw beef organs.

Im about 1 month into daily raw liver and have recently started raw heart, kidney and brain.

I cannot describe in words how strong I feel. My training, stamina, cognition, reflexes, balance, vision, awareness have all improved. I find myself requiring less sleep. I feel like my testosterone is increasing daily (morning wood like i was 18 again) im 36.

I have paired my diet of ruminant meats and raw organs with semen retention. The practices are complementary and synergistic. Transformational.

I often consider how different my life would be had I discovered carnivore lifestyle and semen retention 20 years ago...

There will be low frequency folks on here to condemn or ridicule both of these practices. They will site their preists and their studies(science). None of them have the subjective experience to share.

I look to our distant, forgotten history for answers. We are wild animals that have been domesticated. We preffer our daily zoo ration and alloted enclosure to the freedom of the natural way. Jerking off and wasting your seed and power and eating less empowering sustanance that represses your frequency is by design. We all live in a giant open air prison of concentric circles. In the center of these concentric circles is actual prison and as you move outward you are merely exchanging cells and guards and rations like most well trained, submissive sheople. I say reject the prison slop, venture outside your enclosure intonyour natural habitat and tell the guards to stick their studies and propaganda were the sun dont shine.

Living on what I like to label "the fringe" requires an awoke sole. Its a red pill so to speak. Living with one foot in this crazy world, while eating raw animal organs and meats and retaining and transmuting sexual energies as a masculine, virile man is the frontier of this time.

I have met, first hand other such men. Every. Single. One. Is an exceptional human being. I have found (without exception) that men that retain and transmute their sexual energies and eat carnivore /zero carb are elite individuals worthy of comraderie.

I find carnivory amd retaining my life force satisfying at a spiritual level.

In closing, i leave you men with the following poem which i find beautiful and relevant to this discussion.

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Great Mother Ocean brought forth all life, it is my eternal home.
But I have been gone into strange worlds so long..
countries without currents, countries without tides, countries without depth.
I have forgotten how to live in the world that created me.
I can no longer breathe the water.
I am slow and I am clumsy, I have lost my grace.
But the deep indigo of the depths calls me like a loving mother..
return to the depths, return to the source, return to your nature.



Sometimes, beneath the shimmering surface of my memory,
I sense the deeper memories of generation after generation of hunters.
For tens of thousands of years I have kept a faithful record of my hunting,
so the children of my children’s children will know and remember.
And more permanent than any painted stone..
is the memory that lies at the heart of my every cell,
the memory of my hunting, the history of my tribe.
And when I wake beneath the modern sky,
full of smoke and sound,
as from a dream I believe I lost my way back.
For I cannot forget I am a hunter
and I am from a race of hunters
and there is no place for hunters in this time.
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Joe Rogan was carnivore for January and here the results:

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No surprise there - also Rogan has some kind of immune disease and it got much better on top of losing weight and getting ripped.

Meanwhile in the anti-carnivore land - a salute to the next batch of ex-vegans and potentially future carnivores:





Best is: "I truly believe in veganism and love veganism, but it made me sick and miserable, so I had to start eating fish and meat and now feel so much better. But veganism is great!"
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Well I finally got around to taking a crack at that liver. I cooked a few pieces medium rare. The taste was steak but the texture was tofu. Very odd. I wouldn't eat it for fun and it definitely wants a chaser of some kind. I guess I'll see in a few hours if it wants to come back up but so far so good.

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What's wrong with it if it tastes like steak?
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It's hard to explain. There's a slight metallic taste and with all things when the taste and texture don't mesh then it just seems wrong. Like it would be weird eating a steak flavoured marshmallow or drinking steak juice for example.

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I actually don't like liver because of the metallic taste

On my phone, but I believe I read that the more you need the nutrients in liver the more neutral or tasty it would be for you
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You might try soaking the liver in milk and vinegar overnight before cooking. Seems to neutralize some of the metallic texture.
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(02-01-2020 09:28 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Like it would be weird eating a steak flavoured marshmallow or drinking steak juice for example.

I drink blood all the time razz

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Organ meats are an acquired taste. I eat my beef liver raw. Though I experimented and bought expensive free-range organ meats and the difference is night and day. Strangely enough the muscle meat of those super-organic 100% grass-fed cows tastes a bit worse than the one that is grain-finished in conventional but still good cattle.

I even gave a recovering ex-vegan beef liver and then raw beef liver to eat and he said that he had the impression as if his body was craving urgently something in the liver. Later as his body rebuilt the result after eating organ meats was no longer that big - you have to be deeply malnourished to feel a massive difference.
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According to Vilhjalmur Stefansson, milk is just slightly modified blood. The hunter diet and the herdsman diet are basically the same (meat and blood or meat and milk).
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(02-01-2020 01:02 PM)Hannibal Wrote:  According to Vilhjalmur Stefansson, milk is just slightly modified blood. The hunter diet and the herdsman diet are basically the same (meat and blood or meat and milk).

Ay - living off a fermented mix of milk and blood for up to 6 months:

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No modern hygiene and care, but those buggers are insanely healthy:

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If they had our modern water, hygiene and some decent healthcare, then my bet is that their life expectancy would be about the same level or higher than Monaco - in their 90s on average.
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(02-01-2020 12:11 PM)whitewashedblackguy Wrote:  I drink blood all the time razz

Where do you get it? It's been popular lately. Blood sausage aside, I've not found a good hookup for just blood. I'd like to try sometime.
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(02-01-2020 01:11 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  ...
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If they had our modern water, hygiene and some decent healthcare, then my bet is that their life expectancy would be about the same level or higher than Monaco - in their 90s on average.

You could have just said "powers of levitation" and I'd be sold.

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Why would you possibly eat raw liver? What is lost by cooking it? Not to even mention parasites...

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