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RE: 2020 South American Expat Thread
Honestly, I think what your saying is a bit ridiculous. Have you been to South America?

Anyone who's been to Colombia, Peru, Chile etc know that there are white people from these countries. Although the majority population in most of these countries is some mix of white, native, and African, Europeans have been living in south America for years. South America has had plenty of political conflict (sides can sometimes be broadly divided into racial/class lines) there has not been a history of racial conflict In centuries since the conquistadors battled with the natives. I don't see any sort of uprising against the European descendents living in these countries.

It is fair to say that given demographics of some of these places, some may be less safe then others. However, I have never felt resentment by other races here in SA about my race.

What your saying is very valid for southeast Asia where any white man sticks out and has had zero historical influence in the region. But we're taking about Latin America here. If you speak the language well and make the attempt to integrate you'll be accepted as a citizen.
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(01-12-2020 10:23 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  They are all on the verge of genociding whites...

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(01-12-2020 12:23 PM)Cortés Wrote:  What your saying is very valid for southeast Asia where any white man sticks out and has had zero historical influence in the region. But we're taking about Latin America here. If you speak the language well and make the attempt to integrate you'll be accepted as a citizen.

Not true, there has been lots of colonial influence in all of Asia. In South East Asia (Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam etc.) Europeans got murdered / driven out though which continues to this day when whitey stays a bit too long...
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Congratulations on making two of the most retarded posts in the history of RVF. How much experience in Latin America do you have?

No where in Asia did the conquistadors interbreed with the locals to the extent that they did in Latin America. Maybe in the Philippines but that was pretty much an anomaly in the Asia context. The Dutch in Indonesia, British in Burma, French in Vietnam? Nothing compares to the extent that the Spanish wiped out the locals in the Caribbean, Argentina, chile, etc.

Sure, many Latin American countries are proper shit holes and even the livable ones like Colombia (where I’m posting from) are pretty sketchy but a gringo can integrate and live a relatively comfortable life. In Chile and Argentina a gringo can live more safely than in many major US cities.

Can you name some cases in Latin America where white foreigners have been driven out of a country en masse because they were white?

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SomeOneSomeWhere what you are talking about is complete and utter bullshit. There are some countries such as Zimbabwe and South Africa where that type of thing is happening but nowhere in Asia or South America at least that I am aware of.

In Chile and Peru I experienced some occasional low level racism of people being rude or unfriendly (or trying to rip me off with the gringo tax) to me due to race/skin colour and being an outsider but nothing worse than that. I never felt unsafe. Colombians I found to be extremely welcoming to foreigners. I have been to Vietnam, aside from tourists there were hardly any white people there (i.e. extremely few expats). I did not experience any racism from the Vietnamese aside from the "gringo tax" thing, although it was hard to communicate due to the language barrier.
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Many Latin American countries have a poor justice system and corrupt police force. Everybody that has been shaken down by two local thugs in a yellow-ish POLICIA-vest knows what's up about. Not cool.

Same with getting into legal troubles. What if you are being sued? Being a foreigner might become a problem then

The only country where I was impressed by the correctness and professionalism of the local police force is Costa Rica.
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Costa Rica, which is regarded as the Switzerland of that region, has a 2.5 times the homicide rate of the US. Colombia, Mexico and Venezuela have 5 times the US rate. Belize, which gets mentioned as an attractive gringo outpost is even worse, with a homicide rate higher than South Africa's...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...icide_rate

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(01-14-2020 12:38 PM)911 Wrote:  Costa Rica, which is regarded as the Switzerland of that region, has a 2.5 times the homicide rate of the US. Colombia, Mexico and Venezuela have 5 times the US rate. Belize, which gets mentioned as an attractive gringo outpost is even worse, with a homicide rate higher than South Africa's...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...icide_rate

I'm usually all about using facts and stats to make a point. However in this case these stats don't tell the full story... I'd love to see a break down about the murders in Costa Rica and how many were tourist or expats. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume the majority of the 12 people per 100k that are killed are probably gangbangers and the murders happen in shady areas over shady dealings. I'm not saying all of them but I'd bet money the vast majority of those murders are more the latter.

On a side note I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy a car down here... seems like a straight pain in the ass in some of these countries. I found a restored 80s model jeep I want to buy here in Lima. Buying it doesn't seem to much of a hassle but I'm not finding encouraging info on driving it out of Peru and into Ecuador/Colombia
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Cr33pin- how are you handling visas in S. America? Have you done permanent residency? Would like to put roots down in S. America but have been doing some research and gaining residency in most S. American countries comes with some negative tax consequences...such as double taxation (paying taxes to USA and Colombia for example).

Double taxation is a no bueno. Hoping to get some perspective on taxes vis a vis S. America.
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What are some recommended options for just 4-6 months? In particular November-April? I'm sure most future expats would go this route initially anyway to try it out. Which probably means just basic Spanish speaking ability for us first timers still grasping the language.

Also what Central/South American countries have the best options for long term hotel stays (3-4 weeks) where they are partially furnished like many posters have described in the Philippines?
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(01-11-2020 07:20 PM)Cortés Wrote:  Cr33pin are you planning on driving/busing up to Ecuador or flying? If you're going by land check out Loja Ecuador. It's pretty close to the border of Peru. I spent a few days there and it was a nice city. Pretty cheap as well. The old city was nice to walk around in especially with the mountain backdrop (hard to avoid a mountain background in that part of the continent).

The Northeast of Ecuador can be written off. Aside from some cool jungle excursions in Coca and Tena, not the best places to expat to.

I wasn't that wowed by Ecuador but in all honesty I didn't give it a fair shot. Didn't spend much time there outside of a few weeks in Tena. Be prepared to be disappointed with the food though since you are coming from Peru. Think Colombia level food but priced in American dollars

I'm hitting it by land... either bus or maybe a car if I pull the trigger and buy one here in Peru. Yea I have herd a bit about Loja cause its near the other little towns and cities I'm looking at.

I'm curious if you can just do a border hop and get a fresh 90 days for a vehicle as well... I'm gonna have to sit down and really research this kind of stuff.

(01-14-2020 09:11 PM)Dilated Wrote:  Cr33pin- how are you handling visas in S. America? Have you done permanent residency? Would like to put roots down in S. America but have been doing some research and gaining residency in most S. American countries comes with some negative tax consequences...such as double taxation (paying taxes to USA and Colombia for example).

Double taxation is a no bueno. Hoping to get some perspective on taxes vis a vis S. America.

I don't have experience in seeking out residency type visas yet... I have just been getting the regular 90 days when I enter a country. I over stay those 90 days a lot in Peru but when I leave I just have to pay a dollar per day I over stayed. I hope thats still the case when I leave this time also. From what I understand Ecuador and Panama seem to be the easiest countries to migrate to long term as a expat.

(01-15-2020 02:13 AM)Westcoast99 Wrote:  What are some recommended options for just 4-6 months? In particular November-April? I'm sure most future expats would go this route initially anyway to try it out. Which probably means just basic Spanish speaking ability for us first timers still grasping the language.

Also what Central/South American countries have the best options for long term hotel stays (3-4 weeks) where they are partially furnished like many posters have described in the Philippines?

This is a very subjective topic cause it depends on a variety of factors, just search the travel threa..........oh wait. As far long term hotels I always use Airbnbs and (knock on wood) so far its been great. Fully furnished apartments with furniture and all the utilities included.

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(01-14-2020 06:46 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  
(01-14-2020 12:38 PM)911 Wrote:  Costa Rica, which is regarded as the Switzerland of that region, has a 2.5 times the homicide rate of the US. Colombia, Mexico and Venezuela have 5 times the US rate. Belize, which gets mentioned as an attractive gringo outpost is even worse, with a homicide rate higher than South Africa's...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...icide_rate

I'm usually all about using facts and stats to make a point. However in this case these stats don't tell the full story... I'd love to see a break down about the murders in Costa Rica and how many were tourist or expats. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume the majority of the 12 people per 100k that are killed are probably gangbangers and the murders happen in shady areas over shady dealings. I'm not saying all of them but I'd bet money the vast majority of those murders are more the latter.

On a side note I'm pretty sure I'm going to buy a car down here... seems like a straight pain in the ass in some of these countries. I found a restored 80s model jeep I want to buy here in Lima. Buying it doesn't seem to much of a hassle but I'm not finding encouraging info on driving it out of Peru and into Ecuador/Colombia
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From a NY Post article published last week, FWIW:

Tourist killings jeopardize Costa Rica’s reputation for safe travel

By Christian Gollayan

January 4, 2019 | 4:14pm | Updated

For years, travelers have flocked to Costa Rica for its serene beaches, lush wildlife and vibrant cities.

But the Central American country has been rocked with crime in the past year, and a spike in killings and fatal accidents involving foreigners have threatened Costa Rica’s reputation as one of the safest countries in the region for tourists.

In December, The Post reported on the murder of Carla Stefaniak, a 36-year-old Miami resident who was traveling to San Jose for her birthday. Her body was discovered in a shallow grave near the Airbnb where she was staying. A security guard at the Airbnb listing has been arrested in connection with her case. Meanwhile, local authorities said the killing was sexually motivated.

Unfortunately, Stefaniak was just the latest in a string of violence against Costa Rican tourists. Two unidentified female travelers were found dead near Tortuguero National Park in August. One 31-year-old woman’s body was discovered with strangle marks around her neck, and a 25-year-old woman drowned after she was attacked by two men, reports The Chicago Tribune. Over the summer, a 19-year-old Canadian tourist was robbed and raped after a local tried to offer her a ride from San Jose to Puerto Viejo, reports The Costa Rica Star.

And in October, authorities said that Tom Cook, a 62-year-old “hippie” from Vermont, was murdered in Jaco, a surf town in Costa Rica after he went missing for two months.

Costa Rica has seen a rise in murders in 2012, and a record 603 people were killed in 2017. Meanwhile, authorities told Bloomberg that they’re forecasting an even higher number in 2018.

“There has already been damage done to the country’s image,” Security minister Michael Soto told Bloomberg.

According to the Costa Rican Tourism Board, about 3 million travelers visit the country every year. But in 2017, the number of American tourists dropped for the first time since 2009.

This could spell bad news for Costa Rica, as tourism brings in about $3.5 billion for its economy.

“These incidents infuriate us,” President Carlos Alvarado told Bloomberg, and he promised “intense work” to address the situation.

According to the US embassy website, “Crime is increasing in Costa Rica and US citizens are frequent victims … US citizens are encouraged to exercise a high level of caution and vigilance due to increasing levels of violent crime.”

And the US embassy has advised visitors to be extra cautious in the cities of Liberia, San Rafael and San Jose due to crime.

Costa Rica’s Tourism Board did not immediately return a request for comment.

https://nypost.com/2019/01/04/tourist-ki...fe-travel/

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Excellent Thread guys!! I´ll be following it the whole time.
I am more than determined to emigrate to Latin America (I am a white European guy). I speak fluent spanish and also have already lived in ARG,COL&PERu..
I´m making around 700 $ a month by passive income, I plan to get a job in L.A. in addition. While that does not make me worry about my financial situation, it does make me wonder how easy will I get a residency permission (apart from Paraguay where it seems where easy)?
While I love to read your comments here, I´m still missing "reports" from expats that actually made it to legally live in any Latin American country.. I mean, travelling is easy, blending in with the locals is easy for me too, but how can I really get citizenship / permanent visa / buy an apartment and stuff like that? Is it really that easy in countries like Uruguay and Argentina? Chile for example used to be easy to emigrate to under Bachelet but I heard that now their immigration policies changed..
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Today I requested a quote for a tax analysis from a Colombian/American tax accountant. I wanted to see what my tax burden would be as an American with Colombian residency.

Cost: $675 USD

That’s a FUCKTON in USA. More than the average wage in Colombia. Mierda.

Needless to say I still don’t have any tax answers. Will update if I am able to get any information.

**EDIT- for context I would be living solely off of investment dividend income. So the foreign tax credit and the foreign earned income tax credit won’t apply...I don’t think.
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Im curious if anyone has been to Chile for an extended period of time as an expat, what was their experience? . Im considering exploring the country. Im interested in surfing, spearfishing.

I recently purchased a book. "El Hijo del Pescador". It is about big wave surfing and spearfishing in Chile.

Chile appears to be a region of the world that will likely fair well in the turmultous future that beckons.

As an expat currently living in Spain and having traveled quite alot, i am searching for a place that has ocean, mountains and a place for a white, masculine man and his family to thrive.
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I've spent a good amount of time in Colombia and speak a decent level of Spanish, although I am losing it a bit.

I am considering going to Guadalajara as a winter home and wife hunting location.

I have been back in Canada for 8 months and am tired of the women here and the corporate life. My Current plan is to be here until the end of 2020, but I already feel like I am going to explode.

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(01-16-2020 10:14 AM)Iconoclast007 Wrote:  Im curious if anyone has been to Chile for an extended period of time as an expat, what was their experience? . Im considering exploring the country. Im interested in surfing, spearfishing.

I recently purchased a book. "El Hijo del Pescador". It is about big wave surfing and spearfishing in Chile.

Chile appears to be a region of the world that will likely fair well in the turmultous future that beckons.

As an expat currently living in Spain and having traveled quite alot, i am searching for a place that has ocean, mountains and a place for a white, masculine man and his family to thrive.

Chile is currently in a near civil war, with a massive popular uprising against neoliberal policies. Dozens shot dead, over 10,000 injured, 10x the violence and turmoil of Hong Kong, but 100 x less coverage...





This being said, countries like Chile and Argentina with permanent economic issues and constant monetary devaluations make settling there for an expat with hard currency means more attractive. Maybe the current turmoil is even a good buying opportunity if you have long term plans to settle there.

The Cono Sur is more attractive than Central America or equatorial S. America because of its higher European ethnic mix, but the geographic isolation is a drawback, especially if you have family in Europe or N. America.

I have buddies from Colombia and Venezuala who had great careers and extended family structures in those countries and had to flee to Canada due to the instability and crime there, so I figure there is no way I would consider settling there if it's even not worth it for them...


Also, surfing and spearfishing are just hobbies, is that your main goal in life? Do you have any plans to build a family?

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911.

3 kids and Estonian wife. I Run location independant business so i can live anywhere. Currently in Spain.

Surfing, spearfishing and the ocean keep me sane.

I want my kids to grow somewhere near nature. Away from the nonsense of modern civilization (which is currently in its death throes).
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As far as Chile goes, I think it will have a great future even with the current instability. They have a history of stepping all over communism, and I think that the Chilean people won't go the way of Argentina. The reality is that there isn't any halfway developed country in the world that will be immune to some of these modern issues such as degeneracy, communism etc but I'm pretty confident Chile would handle it better than most countries. The military and police STRONGLY are right wing in Chile and that won't change any time soon. Especially with economic refugees flooding in from Venezuela, the Chileans are getting more fed up and leaning back towards the strong right government they had in the late 20th century. The people are rather atheist compared to most other countries in Latin America, but it makes up for it by being a civilized and modern country. As far as I'm aware, outside of the major cities (Santiago, La Serena etc) the protests haven't affected the daily lives of everyday citizens

For those who want residency/citizenship, check out nomad capitalist, that guy has an updated wealth of information about residency and citizenship around the world. By far, the easiest path to permanent residency and citizenship is by marriage. Panama and Paraguay you can obtain permanent residency for a bank deposit less than $10000 USD. Keep in mind Paraguay may be a great option for that because they are located in Mercosul, giving you living and working rights to Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay. Who knows how long until Mercosul dissolves, but at least for now you would get access to these countries without stressing about a visa.

With Panama, on paper you technically don't even have to live there for the five years of permanent residency to get citizenship. With that said, you would probably need to demonstrate some strong ties to the country in order to get that passport, but you can come and go. No need to be there non stop for 5 years.

Most other countries in SA, residency can be obtained by investment, usually somewhere around $100000 USD.

Another option to consider is giving birth in the desired country. All SA countries have birthright citizenship, many of which allow parents of citizens immediate permanent residency. The only ones that I know of for sure that do this are Argentina and Brazil. One year of permanent residence this route, and you get the passport.

It's been said that Argentina is the easiest country to get residency and a passport, as they don't recognize any immigration as "illegal". You could come on a tourist visa, over stay for a few years and claim citizenship.

Obviously I am not an expert on this, but I spent a few months last summer reading up on this stuff ALOT. Best thing you can do is visit your target country and talk to a migraciones officer or a lawyer. Keep in mind that in this part of the world, what one officer says is possible, another will tell you impossible. Try a different person on a different day.

Edit:

https://nomadcapitalist.com/

https://www.youtube.com/user/nomadcapitalist

Google "nomad capitalist" + whatever country you are interested in. He's got tons of info.

His content and subject matter about expatriation, taxation, and acquiring multiple citizenships is top notch. He is part of a certain tribe, and his main aim with this info is helping millionaires pay little to no taxes. Also he advocates strongly against having any sense of national pride. But his info can be of good use for potential expatriates and how to avoid double taxation
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(01-17-2020 09:37 AM)Cortés Wrote:  As far as Chile goes, I think it will have a great future even with the current instability. They have a history of stepping all over communism, and I think that the Chilean people won't go the way of Argentina.

+1 Great info about Chile & Paraguay. I may message you someday in the distant future to get more details.

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(01-17-2020 09:48 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 09:37 AM)Cortés Wrote:  As far as Chile goes, I think it will have a great future even with the current instability. They have a history of stepping all over communism, and I think that the Chilean people won't go the way of Argentina.

+1 Great info about Chile & Paraguay. I may message you someday in the distant future to get more details.

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Pinochets spirit lives on, and I don't think Chile will let the good old days slip away to become another Argentina.

Later today or this weekend I'll write up a report so far on Brazil. So far I'm loving it and I think there's great potential for someone to expatriate and start a family. I'm in a small town right now, and it is turning out to be everything I was hoping Brazil would be!
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I noticed several investors really believe that buying on the Chilean dip here is a solid idea. I think Nicholas Pardini mentioned it within the last month.
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(01-15-2020 07:33 PM)tiikaa Wrote:  Excellent Thread guys!! I´ll be following it the whole time.
I am more than determined to emigrate to Latin America (I am a white European guy). I speak fluent spanish and also have already lived in ARG,COL&PERu..
I´m making around 700 $ a month by passive income, I plan to get a job in L.A. in addition. While that does not make me worry about my financial situation, it does make me wonder how easy will I get a residency permission (apart from Paraguay where it seems where easy)?
While I love to read your comments here, I´m still missing "reports" from expats that actually made it to legally live in any Latin American country.. I mean, travelling is easy, blending in with the locals is easy for me too, but how can I really get citizenship / permanent visa / buy an apartment and stuff like that? Is it really that easy in countries like Uruguay and Argentina? Chile for example used to be easy to emigrate to under Bachelet but I heard that now their immigration policies changed..

700 USD/month isn't enough for Uruguay unless you want to live like a very poor immigrant coming in as a single man. 1400 USD/month is doable, but lean. At 2100 USD things can be very comfortable. Unless you are from another Latin American country, at 700 USD/monthly Uruguay probably isn't giving you residency.

Renting an apartment took about a month and a half after I decided to do it with most of the delay involving a procedure to get a "garantía".

Real estate prices are too inflated for me to consider buying anything in the current market, but the best prices are on new construction apartments. I rent for ~450 USD monthly a property that could be advertised for sale at ~100,000 USD. There doesn't seem to be any room to book a profit as a landlord. The driver for this seems to be Argentines using Uruguayan real estate as a vehicle for savings. With Uruguay being a small country and Argentines not being known for financial prowess, there is some insanity in the market.
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(01-12-2020 10:23 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  Russia... a fairly depressing place to me... You can also buy an apartment for example ... a newly built 20m2 shoebox in a nightmare'ish borg cube.

Thats what I focused on in your post.
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