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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
I have seen this in Cologne as well. What is the conclusion that we should draw? Tinder is still very popular, and is still making good money for the mother company.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
(01-02-2020 10:56 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I'm seeing a lot more $cashapp $venmo $paypal for snap chat. Tinder is turning straight into a platform for cam whores. There are very few women actually interested in dating on it.

It's surprising it was ever of any use, given the low bar to entry = free. Anything that is paid, or at least requires one party to have paid ups the bar.

I was thinking recently that one aspect of playing the capitalism game (even in its currently much reduced form) is that eventually some people will become better and better at the game. And so we have a few companies that are hoovering up brick and mortar and mom 'n pops. Every aspect of running a business from accounts, to HR, to logistics has been tuned by scientific measurement. Corporations have never been so lean. They've become so lean, the same small group of people know the model and try and roll it out into every niche.

It's similar with pro sports. They've tuned fitness, got in psychologists, big money... The game has been gamed by the best.

It's the same with online dating. Some guys have gone in and tuned their game to win big. It only took ten years, such is the drive for fornication. As they improve, those below them slip.

As with corporations and sports we've now reached a point where the game is fatigued and breaking down. Low end and low game guys turned up and just get rejection. Those that were good ran though women and those women stop using Tinder. Now it's left to low quality women, prostitutes and women only looking for attention.

There was also a study that showed the number of women on there is falling. Likely as they got pump and dumped. Any attractive guy with game had little reason to do anything but stay on there and soak up the -2s and fewer -1s.

The owners seem to be aware of its unstoppable decline and have decided to push men hard to pay to get matches. It will probably be rolled up and sold to Viacom before going the way of POF.
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RE: Online dating in 2007 vs now: what the h-ll happened?
The way it is in Cologne, you have much better chance of getting a date out of a quick shopping run at a local city supermarket than a day of swiping. Plus you end up with a much nicer background story to the question of "How did you guys meet?"
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(01-24-2020 08:13 PM)gework Wrote:  I was thinking recently that one aspect of playing the capitalism game (even in its currently much reduced form) is that eventually some people will become better and better at the game. And so we have a few companies that are hoovering up brick and mortar and mom 'n pops. Every aspect of running a business from accounts, to HR, to logistics has been tuned by scientific measurement. Corporations have never been so lean. They've become so lean, the same small group of people know the model and try and roll it out into every niche.

I think that also applies to the businesses operating online dating platforms today. A dating service has zero financial interest in its members actually meeting one another and getting into stable relationships. They have realised the way to make money is to operate a similar model to 'ladies night' at most common nightclubs. If they can attract and keep a crop of young attractive women on their books; men will pay considerable money to have access to them. I've been on Tinder since around 2015 and seen how they've edged the waters into what they can charge. Going into the multi tier member strategy whenever they released 'Gold'. When I first started using it I remember the base 'premium' package was around £6 a month and included multiple boosts. Boosts now are priced at £6 per go.. 6 fucking quid. I like many others have recalled had much more success on the apps a few years ago, as opposed to now.

The competition between dating services has increased and the tactics of promotion by each have gotten more shrewd. We all remember Tinder's 'menprovement' scheme. Which was clearly marketed to justify women's frivolous use of the app and to promote an attitude of over casualness. The makers of the app had the choice to produce an advertisement that promoted the men using the app and their potential relationship quality - but they chose not to. Instead casting a modern archetype of an eternally single woman - albeit a highly successful one.
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(01-27-2020 09:32 AM)mr-ed209 Wrote:  
(01-24-2020 08:13 PM)gework Wrote:  I was thinking recently that one aspect of playing the capitalism game (even in its currently much reduced form) is that eventually some people will become better and better at the game. And so we have a few companies that are hoovering up brick and mortar and mom 'n pops. Every aspect of running a business from accounts, to HR, to logistics has been tuned by scientific measurement. Corporations have never been so lean. They've become so lean, the same small group of people know the model and try and roll it out into every niche.

I think that also applies to the businesses operating online dating platforms today. A dating service has zero financial interest in its members actually meeting one another and getting into stable relationships. They have realised the way to make money is to operate a similar model to 'ladies night' at most common nightclubs. If they can attract and keep a crop of young attractive women on their books; men will pay considerable money to have access to them. I've been on Tinder since around 2015 and seen how they've edged the waters into what they can charge. Going into the multi tier member strategy whenever they released 'Gold'. When I first started using it I remember the base 'premium' package was around £6 a month and included multiple boosts. Boosts now are priced at £6 per go.. 6 fucking quid. I like many others have recalled had much more success on the apps a few years ago, as opposed to now.

The competition between dating services has increased and the tactics of promotion by each have gotten more shrewd. We all remember Tinder's 'menprovement' scheme. Which was clearly marketed to justify women's frivolous use of the app and to promote an attitude of over casualness. The makers of the app had the choice to produce an advertisement that promoted the men using the app and their potential relationship quality - but they chose not to. Instead casting a modern archetype of an eternally single woman - albeit a highly successful one.

The people who set up the Barn Dance in ages past were invested in helping the young people pair off with a suitable match.

The people who set up the Nightclub and Tinder are only invested in extracting profit from foolish young people.

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The dating apps have become woke. Soon they will go broke.

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(02-02-2020 12:22 AM)Garuda Wrote:  The dating apps have become woke. Soon they will go broke.

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Saw this yesterday on my way home. It pisses me off to see they're marketing this crap in to the public at large. Kids see this stuff too; not a good intro to the dating sphere.
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Ideological litmus tests work both ways.

https://medium.com/refinery29/the-danger...12ba1bcd2e

If this is the way things are going, the future is going to be celibacy.
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^ I'm surrounded by women like this, both at work, and outside at cafes and shops. I think it's telling that if you got everyone that I interact with at work (both in my department, and others that we deal with) to roll up their sleeves to the elbow, all the tattoos that are visible belong to women.
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(02-06-2020 01:00 PM)questor70 Wrote:  Ideological litmus tests work both ways.

https://medium.com/refinery29/the-danger...12ba1bcd2e

If this is the way things are going, the future is going to be celibacy.

Rural and religious communities will be the last holdouts. It's over for cities.
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(02-07-2020 03:13 PM)monsquid Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:00 PM)questor70 Wrote:  Ideological litmus tests work both ways.

https://medium.com/refinery29/the-danger...12ba1bcd2e

If this is the way things are going, the future is going to be celibacy.

Rural and religious communities will be the last holdouts. It's over for cities.

WOW. Just WOW.

Never thought I'd see something like that.

Always knew OKC leaned left but...that I didn't expect.
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Okc is kind of a ghost town lately, a lot of "ready to settle down" dregs, but you can still use it for that thing we're not allowed to talk about on the forum. The sign that says "okay to be a party-line voter and a swing dater" rules over the "Mr. Right... leans left" and other posters. Leftist women want it raw and rough from the exact opposite of the man their gynocentric society cultivates.
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(02-07-2020 06:38 PM)kel Wrote:  Okc is kind of a ghost town lately, a lot of "ready to settle down" dregs, but you can still use it for that thing we're not allowed to talk about on the forum. The sign that says "okay to be a party-line voter and a swing dater" rules over the "Mr. Right... leans left" and other posters. Leftist women want it raw and rough from the exact opposite of the man their gynocentric society cultivates.

Funny when I read what you wrote I remembered some couchsurfing meet up meeting that I attended many years ago in Berlin...

There was thing chick, quite hot. She checked all the cases. She was leftist, vegan, feminist, progressive, hated Trump, virtue signalling every-time she could..

Then later that night, an American dude, probably part of the military based in Berlin was the exact opposite of her. He was Chad looking, tall, arrogant, leather jacket.. the type of dudes you see at bars often.

They argued and you can tell she was hating him..
Very late at night, when the alcohol had made his effect, I've heard from another dude that he took her home.

It was an opener for me at that time...
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(02-02-2020 02:48 PM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  
(02-02-2020 12:22 AM)Garuda Wrote:  The dating apps have become woke. Soon they will go broke.

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Saw this yesterday on my way home. It pisses me off to see they're marketing this crap in to the public at large. Kids see this stuff too; not a good intro to the dating sphere.

This shouldn't surprise you, apps like Tinder are designed around and meant for women, not men.

BTW, for a deeper dive into the report from that Tyro "Hedge Fund" in NYC referenced in an earlier post, Motley Fool has this podcast going into their research. The proponents are both late 20s NYC guys, hence likely to be active dating market participants as well as financial wannabe hedgies. Not a bad listen, though.





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(02-02-2020 02:48 PM)JiggyLordJr Wrote:  
(02-02-2020 12:22 AM)Garuda Wrote:  The dating apps have become woke. Soon they will go broke.

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Saw this yesterday on my way home. It pisses me off to see they're marketing this crap in to the public at large. Kids see this stuff too; not a good intro to the dating sphere.

Get out of NYC.

Incidentally, Match Group (which owns OKC, Tinder, Match, ect) is based in Dallas. I've had to turn down opportunities to work on their apps. They don't advertise that kind of stuff here, it would be too controversial.

OKC is on its last throws anyway who uses it anymore.
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Something I haven't seen being discussed anywhere else: has anyone else noticed that Match.com recently jumped on the bandwagon, long ago jumped on by OKCupid and PlentyOfFish, of not letting a man see women in his search results for whom he is outside their desired age range? I'm 43, and for the longest time Match was the only site left where I could still search for the twentysomethings (not that it's done me any good lately.) But a few days ago, I noticed my number of search results had shrunk drastically, and after clicking on a few profiles, I realized it was only showing me women who had set the high end of their "looking for" age range higher than 43.

I can't be the only one. Has anyone else noticed this?
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^that wouldn't surprise me, it was similar with e-Harmony when it first came out over a decade ago.

Towards the end of that podcast cited above, they go into the various marketing strategies behind the different apps, how they are maneuvering and manipulating as they grow more "efficient."

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Sometimes I message fatties or uglies on tinder (out of boredom/experimentation) and even they don't reply or they reply with one word answers.
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^ ^ ^
That's because they use those apps just to get validation, that guys are interested in them. They feed themselves this way. If they get match- that's enough for them, to go to sleep. It's childish. Like listen to fairytale before sleep. Don't feed them with that. Don't let them use you.
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(03-30-2020 08:40 PM)just a human Wrote:  ^ ^ ^
That's because they use those apps just to get validation, that guys are interested in them. They feed themselves this way. If they get match- that's enough for them, to go to sleep. It's childish. Like listen to fairytale before sleep. Don't feed them with that. Don't let them use you.

That's why some of them will say on social media or in interviews with a Huffington Post reporter, "Yes, I weigh 300 pounds but you wouldn't believe how many messages I get on OKCupid. We're all beautiful at any size."
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I think dating is much various now than it was in 2007
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China virus has seemingly popped a lot of bubbles and this (p*ssy bubble) might be 1 of them. With the economic quagmire coming after Corona subsides, women will do 1 of 3 things.

1) They will continue to act like whores and deflate the market online and in real life. Do you remember the news articles about Greek women selling themselves for the price of a sandwich a couple years ago? Whether or not it was completely true is besides the point. Hard times come and 60000 new content creators flood this market, all fighting for less(?) dollars.

2) They realize their paper-pushing, BS jobs are going to be hard to come by. They start becoming more feminine and actually settle down.

3) They join Chad's ever increasing harem lol.
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1 and 3.
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Quote:3) They join Chad's ever increasing harem lol.

Even (all but the richest) Chads can only afford to feed so many girls.

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