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(04-03-2020 02:55 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  Are you talking about The Jerusalem Bible?

That's actually the first English-language Roman Catholic translation that wasn't done from the Vulgate.

By the waters of Babylon, there we sat down and we wept, when we remembered Zion.
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(03-29-2020 07:40 PM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  @Emperor Constantine

So is there any original manuscripts left apart from the Masoretic?

For now I can only trust Christ's word that his words shall not pass away.

And God didnt permit the Jews from erasing all traces of Jesus' Messiahship.

The earliest complete Hebrew Bible is from the 11th century, but the Aleppo Codex is a few decades earlier. It's missing, however, the Pentateuch.

The Dead Sea Scrolls have a few books and fragments, but a lot of them are "extracanonical literature," like the Books of Enoch. It's worth noting, too, that where the DSS vary from the Masoretic Text, they much more closely follow the Samaritan Pentateuch, which is a different textual tradition.

The Septuagint (LXX) is, of course, much earlier, though it has some elements that were not present in the Hebrew text (e.g. the story of Bel in the Book of Daniel).

"For you yourselves are aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night" (1 Thess. 5:2)
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(03-29-2020 04:20 PM)Emperor Constantine Wrote:  In the case of the New Testament, definitely not. They used a Byzantine text like the one the Vulgate was translated from, not one of the butchered critical texts which most of the 21st century translations are done from.

Most modern translations more closely follow the Alexandria text type, which is the earliest complete text we have. Westcott and Hort's famous Greek NT stemmed significantly from the codicies of Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, which is what the modern Nestle-Aland (the critical edition in Greek) follows.

The earlier fragments, which are almost all 2nd/3rd century, much more closely resemble the Alexandrian text than the Byzantine text.

"For you yourselves are aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night" (1 Thess. 5:2)
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'Manual For Interior Souls' is a classic Contemplative work from the 1890's that I order in early January and that I finally received a copy of last week. I picked it up for the first time last night, and flipping it open was immediately-drawn to a particular chapter.

Contemplative Grades of Prayer are of a different order to the Beginner Grades, and as such I think works like this might be hard for those earlier along on the journey toward God to understand. I watched a randomly recommended Youtube video last night, and the man talking described the different between Religionists (Law of Fear / Freedom of Indifference types) and Mystics (Law of Love / Freedom for Excellence types) as the difference between a view of God based upon an Imagined Fantasy Truth of whom God is based upon their particular religious upbringing versus versus those who know His Truth due to this being continually-formed by an Experiential Knowledge of God. Way back near the beginning of this thread, I discussed sensing an 'engine' theory that generated a constant cycle of spiritual growth, particularly via Lived Experience, so this idea resonates with me very well, as it's here in the 'Manual', 85 years before 'Sources of Christian Ethics' was written.

My Priest has taught me recently that you'll know when you're on the right track with God because the idea will be reinforced everywhere you turn in spiritual reading / listening.

So, saying that, give this a read with an open mind, and understand that this is speaking the truth of God learnt through my very, very hard-won lived experience over the last couple of years. Whilst it's possible it won't resonate currently, at the very least I'd ask those in the Meditative States to use it as a springboard for meditation and ask God to reveal its truth to you, but it's an incredible gift for those who are experiencing fear during these current times.

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I had the worst nightmare last night.

The things that happened during that dream, I would never imagine in a million years that I'd partake in them. Thankfully I wasn't participating, but merely a spectator.

I came upon this forum at a time when I was just getting a hold of myself. It was the peak gaming era, and so I, in vain, tried to replicate the lifestyles that were commonplace around here.

All my life I was searching for God in the wrong places, and it is ever so surprising that my faith only grew stronger at a time Roosh took the forum in a new direction.

I don't want to make this all about me, but I feel that what is happening to me, is probably happening to a million people right now. Logos is rising, while the devil is testing us with the nastiest thoughts, dreams or whatever subconscious weapon he has at hand.

The nightmare was a sexual dream, and it happened after I listened to Roosh's latest podcast.

That was enough for me to realize that something bigger is at work. Although I probably get that realization every single day.
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Some of us were talking about a sense of being targeted earlier. A friend the other night in dreams after praying a useful prayer. I suffer heavy demonic attacks now and then, which are common for contemplative souls. We feel the battle is ramping up.

Note this article discussing the increase in demonic oppression, including people noting even the unusual level of pushback in the comments:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/pri...c-activity

Be strong. Trust in God.
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For some reason the past few days I feel incredibly calm. I should be scared but I am not.
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(Yesterday 01:38 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  Some of us were talking about a sense of being targeted earlier. A friend the other night in dreams after praying a useful prayer. I suffer heavy demonic attacks now and then, which are common for contemplative souls. We feel the battle is ramping up.

Note this article discussing the increase in demonic oppression, including people noting even the unusual level of pushback in the comments:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/pri...c-activity

Be strong. Trust in God.

You're spot on when you say that "the battle is ramping up", as well as ((())) saying that "something bigger is at work". I think a lot of people are sensing that, even more so people like us on this forum, truth seekers and more spiritually inclined.

I can't help but think of the name of the street that I'm living now : "Martyrs of the Resistance street".
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(Yesterday 04:36 AM)Deusleveult Wrote:  You're spot on when you say that "the battle is ramping up", as well as ((())) saying that "something bigger is at work". I think a lot of people are sensing that, even more so people like us on this forum, truth seekers and more spiritually inclined.

Ah, I can't even begin to explain what I just went through, and that I can sense is still going on.

I was naive to say the battle is 'ramping up'. No. The war is on.

If you don't know about Catholic Spiritual Warfare, get reading.

Don't be afraid, just spiritually 'arm yourself'.
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Pretty sure this is the first time I've seen an American politician at the federal level mention Pelagius. Been keeping my eyes on Hawley since I saw this a while back:

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/...-politics/

Quote:What, exactly, you might ask, does Pelagius have to do with American politics? At a recent commencement address at the King’s College, a small Christian school in Manhattan, Hawley identified the British monk as an early proponent of a “particular philosophy of freedom” that has come to dominate American culture and politics for decades: “It is a philosophy of liberation from family and tradition, of escape from God and community, a philosophy of self-creation and unrestricted, unfettered free choice.”

Sounds like there's lots of secular Pelagius running around these days. The more I read about the various major theological issues that have cropped up through out church history, the more I see how they aren't just abstract philosophical debates but have actual earthly, pragmatic consequences. The realism vs. nominalism debate is another big seemingly merely theoretical debate that has had gigantic consequences on society. Nominalism has been influenced everything about modern culture.
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The Latin Mass performing priest here is skeptical and not buying into the media narrative.

He sent out an e-mail with a, "Reality Check" attachment, showing the number of worldwide deaths from January 1 to April 2.

51,465 deaths by Coronavirus.
123,288 deaths by Seasonal Flu.
248,726 deaths by Malaria.
271,922 deaths by Suicide.
342,303 deaths by Traffic Fatality.
426,269 deaths by HIV/AIDS
634,213 deaths by Alcohol
1,267,629 deaths by Smoking
2,082,595 deaths by Cancer
2,836,025 deaths by Hunger
10,778,021 deaths by Abortion.

He had been continuing to do a maximum 10-person attendance Holy Mass for 10 days after the provincial government ordered a shutdown of everything but non-essential businesses.

Just yesterday, there was a press conference ordering churches to close.

He is now dealing with a complaint filled to the Public Health Department because of his decision to offer the receiving of the Eucharist to the Faithful.
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The Real Jesus
The man depicted in Western art is nothing like the one described in the Bible.
BY STEPHEN FLURRY • APRIL 10, 2009

This is the time of year newsmagazines often grace their covers with a pale, tender-skinned, soft-spoken, long-haired, womanish figure wearing a beard. It’s supposed to be Jesus. But these erroneous depictions of Christ look nothing like the Jesus described in your Bible.

The real Jesus was a powerfully built, masculine man—a rugged outdoorsman. He was a man who was master of every situation. He was a people-person and a dynamically persuasive teacher. He was a man of upstanding character—an upholder and promoter of God’s perfect law of liberty.

Isn’t it time you became acquainted with the Jesus of the Bible?

Christ’s Family

Prior to His 3½-year ministry, Jesus Christ was brought up in a large family as the oldest of five brothers and at least three sisters (Matthew 13:54-56). Traditional Christianity depicts Jesus’s stepfather as some kind of uneducated, deadbeat dad who was baffled by his stepson’s remarkable genius. Joseph was supposedly married to a superior woman.

The real Joseph, however, was the loving head, provider, protector and primary educator of this extraordinary family. He was a “just” man, Matthew wrote, with sterling character. Upon learning that Mary was pregnant, Joseph initially intended to secretly dissolve the engagement for the sake of his own reputation—and Mary’s.

But while Joseph “thought on these things,” an angel appeared unto him and said that Mary had conceived of the Holy Spirit. In response to the angel’s instructions, Joseph obeyed God, risked his upstanding reputation in the community, took a pregnant woman to be his wife and accepted her firstborn son as one of his very own.

In northern Galilee, Jesus became known as the son of Joseph (John 6:42). As a teenager and young adult, Jesus worked outdoors, developing into a master craftsman on his stepfather’s carpentry crew.

“And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him” (Luke 2:40). This was due, in large part, to the indomitable influence of His mentor and stepfather, Joseph.

When Jesus was 12, for example, Joseph took his wife and children to Jerusalem to observe the Passover and the feast of Unleavened Bread. Only males were required to go to Jerusalem for the three annual festival seasons (Exodus 23:14-17). But Joseph was a successful businessman and family man—so he took the entire family.

It was during this trip to Jerusalem that Jesus wound up in the temple reasoning with the doctors of the law. Having learned to be an exceptional student under His father’s direction, Luke’s account says that Jesus was “hearing” and “asking questions” (Luke 2:46). He was listening and learning from some of the most distinguished educators of His day—this was no ordinary 12-year-old.

His parents, having lost track of Jesus on the way home, returned to Jerusalem to find Him in the temple. They were “amazed.” The teachers of the law were “astonished at his understanding.”

From that point forward, Scripture says, “Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man” (verse 52).

The real Jesus grew up in a well-balanced, God-fearing household where His physical father served as head and His mother as a submissive and loving helpmeet and homemaker.

Jesus as Master

In his Trumpet column last week, Robert Morley wrote about the dearth of male teachers in elementary and primary schools today. “Why is society robbing young boys of the masculine role models they need?” he asked. When Morley was a boy, his favorite teachers were the stronger, more authoritative male role models he could look up to.

Isn’t it the same for you? Think back on the male teachers who impacted your life most when you were younger.

Now think about Jesus Christ—the greatest orator and teacher who has ever lived. Why should we imagine Him to be an effeminate weakling who somehow moved the masses while speaking in hushed tones?

“Follow me,” He supposedly whispered to the fishermen, tax collectors and businessmen of His day and, of course, they promptly dropped everything to learn a new profession.

That is not the Jesus of your Bible. The real Jesus “waxed strong” physically and spoke with such powerful conviction and clarity that He astonished the masses! “For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes” (Matthew 7:29).

Jesus Christ did not teach or even look like the self-righteous religious figures of His day. After the miracle of the loaves and fishes, the Jewish commoners wanted to make Jesus a king (John 6:15). His wildly popular impact early on in His ministry enraged the jealous chief priests and Pharisees. “If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation,” they reasoned in John 11:48. They demanded their officers to apprehend this persuasive scholar. But none of the officers would lay hands on Him.

“No man ever spoke like this man!” they said in John 7:46 (Revised Standard Version).

Jesus Christ simply did not fit into the mold of what people thought a religious leader should look and sound like. He was a hard-working, rugged-looking, masculine family man. He loved construction and numerous other outdoor activities like sailing, hiking and camping. He was an avid reader and studier—conversant in every imaginable topic.

And He loved people. He socialized so much His critics accused Him of being a glutton and winebibber! In actual fact, Jesus was the friendliest man who ever lived. He loved being among crowds. He interacted with Samaritans, the blind and lame, the elderly, and women and children. He broke bread with Pharisees, tax collectors and sinners.

Then there were His students—the disciples. Most of those who dropped everything in order to follow the Messiah later sacrificed their very lives for this impressive, God-fearing man. “Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?” His disciples lamented after Jesus was gone (Luke 24:32).

Jesus lived the abundant life (John 10:10). He practiced what He preached. And in living in accordance with all of God’s holy laws, He left for us a perfect example to follow (1 Peter 2:21).

Strive to follow those steps set before us by Jesus Christ—the real Jesus, as depicted in the pages of your Bible.
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