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The more likely explanation is that they actually didn’t expect him to win and adapted.
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(03-27-2020 06:41 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  The more likely explanation is that they actually didn’t expect him to win and adapted.

This is the right answer to most things, and why conversations of people who are fundamentally right about the nature of the world nonetheless spiral into circuitous tin-foil hat stuff, screeching back and forth about "x is a psyop, isn't it obvious?" vs. "the psyop was a psyop, you rube!" etc. After the fact it's easy to find a million ways this was "obviously planned" from the beginning. The real answer is the elites always have lots of irons in the fire, it's a shifting landscape and they can apply soft power here and there both explicitly or just rely on the programming already laid down in schools and media loyalties and such. There doesn't have to be a detailed "plan" a board of shadowy figures agreed up on and drew up in specific bullet points. There's always a way to spin anything if you have the foundation of media, financial, and political control and a population already primed.
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Can't make this sh*t up



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Man what a fucking idiotic response by Trump. It was actually a legitimate question using his own words.
03-29-2020 11:05 PM
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Well he did answer it. They send generators to New York, they end up in a warehouse in NJ.

If you didn't like Trump before the pandemic, you aren't going to like him afterwards.

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I'm honestly getting sick of his nepotism and his many failures. The America first agenda is pretty much over. It's been all downhill since he fired sloppy Steve Bannon and installed Kushner inc. He gets the worst advice from his son in law and has squandered so many opportunities it's ridiculous. He's clearly an incompetent leader that doesn't understand the basics of governing and he surrounds himself with a bunch of 'yes' men. How about some more cucking to GOP inc. Sound good?
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(03-29-2020 11:18 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Well he did answer it. They send generators to New York, they end up in a warehouse in NJ.

The question was, how is that going to impact how you fill these orders for ventilators and masks. He answered it in an indirect way while heaping praise on himself, as he usually does. In between all of that was a lot of superfluous BS that I think turns people off. I am by no means a Trump hater, but he spends too much time talking BS about where people used to work and portraying himself as a victim. He says a lot of illogical stuff to fit his narrative and gets defensive when he gets called out on it.
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Anyone would start to lose it with reporters after fielding hundreds of gotcha setup questions. Nearly every journo in there is working to bring about for his failure and downfall. During this crisis the objective is to get Trump to commit to something which he cannot then deliver. The 'Will every person that needs a ventilator get one?' question is a good example. When some people die without one, reporters can then say he failed the American people in their greatest time of need.
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In regards to the above, I still think back on Mike Cernovich's words, which were profound but also correct....

"If Trump doesn't win this election the country will collapse".

Well, Trump didn't win the election. The man named "Trump" won the election but the policy and agenda he ran on lost the election. Will the country collapse as a result? It appears we are heading in that direction, just like we were before Trump ran for president, but everything continues to speed up.

I don't get it. Trump says so many big and profound things in 2015 and 2016. He woke up the minds and spirits of millions of Americans. He really got people excited. He really communicated as if he understood what they were facing with jobs being shipped overseas, and with H-1B visa workers taking jobs here, and COL sky-rocketing due to immigration, and illegal immigration making entire communities no longer safe.

Then he gets the biggest political upset victory in the history of politics and what does he do? He tosses it all away. Does he really think his supporters are THIS stupid? Even many of his hardcore supporters I know are questioning him.

I would like to think he is playing 4D chess and is just trying to really expose the evils behind the scenes. But in the midst of the greatest political cover he could get from this pandemic and we are getting nothing out of it, not even rhetoric. Just the boring typical GOPe responses and policies.
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(Yesterday 12:30 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Anyone would start to lose it with reporters after fielding hundreds of gotcha setup questions. Nearly every journo in there is working to bring about for his failure and downfall. During this crisis the objective is to get Trump to commit to something which he cannot then deliver. The 'Will every person that needs a ventilator get one?' question is a good example. When some people die without one, reporters can then say he failed the American people in their greatest time of need.

I listened to a three hour deep dive podcast on this issue yesterday. And it would be too long to hash everything out here, but there are tons of things Trump could have done to get prepared for this (we had a 2 month head start on it) and then tons of things Trump could be doing now that he isn't doing.

Trump's words are bad enough. But when you pull back the curtain you really see how badly this was handled. All the way from the USA giving these precious supplies to China in the form of aid when we knew that we would need them up to doing nothing to get prepared. And now he were are with no leadership to protect the people. You are a billionaire banker or billionaire real estate holder, then here is a few million to keep you satisfied over the course of this pandemic. And yes this includes Trump and Kushner getting bailed out with their real estate properties. If you are a regular guy trying to feed his kids, well here is $1,200 if you are poor enough and if not then go starve.

His handling of this, when he could use it a as a platform to really push American first legislation is amazingly bad.
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(Yesterday 04:30 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(Yesterday 12:30 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Anyone would start to lose it with reporters after fielding hundreds of gotcha setup questions. Nearly every journo in there is working to bring about for his failure and downfall. During this crisis the objective is to get Trump to commit to something which he cannot then deliver. The 'Will every person that needs a ventilator get one?' question is a good example. When some people die without one, reporters can then say he failed the American people in their greatest time of need.

I listened to a three hour deep dive podcast on this issue yesterday. And it would be too long to hash everything out here, but there are tons of things Trump could have done to get prepared for this (we had a 2 month head start on it) and then tons of things Trump could be doing now that he isn't doing.

Trump's words are bad enough. But when you pull back the curtain you really see how badly this was handled. All the way from the USA giving these precious supplies to China in the form of aid when we knew that we would need them up to doing nothing to get prepared. And now he were are with no leadership to protect the people. You are a billionaire banker or billionaire real estate holder, then here is a few million to keep you satisfied over the course of this pandemic. And yes this includes Trump and Kushner getting bailed out with their real estate properties. If you are a regular guy trying to feed his kids, well here is $1,200 if you are poor enough and if not then go starve.

His handling of this, when he could use it a as a platform to really push American first legislation is amazingly bad.

While Sleepy Joe, Commie Sanders, etc. on the Left certainly aren't the answer, it has become clear that Trump took the throne because he is an expert carpetbagger & marketer (I had always suspected this while other Trump supporting friends of mine thought he could do no wrong). This coronavirus pandemic has him exposed with his pants down it seems. At this point I don't care if it's King Kong in the White House. After we get a handle on the virus (which I know may take some time), I want the administration to try its best to help resurrect the economy and the great American middle class that the nation was once known for. Employ more Americans & bring more manufacturing back to these shores. There's a lot more I would add, but I will leave it at that for now.
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(Yesterday 05:12 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:30 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(Yesterday 12:30 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Anyone would start to lose it with reporters after fielding hundreds of gotcha setup questions. Nearly every journo in there is working to bring about for his failure and downfall. During this crisis the objective is to get Trump to commit to something which he cannot then deliver. The 'Will every person that needs a ventilator get one?' question is a good example. When some people die without one, reporters can then say he failed the American people in their greatest time of need.

I listened to a three hour deep dive podcast on this issue yesterday. And it would be too long to hash everything out here, but there are tons of things Trump could have done to get prepared for this (we had a 2 month head start on it) and then tons of things Trump could be doing now that he isn't doing.

Trump's words are bad enough. But when you pull back the curtain you really see how badly this was handled. All the way from the USA giving these precious supplies to China in the form of aid when we knew that we would need them up to doing nothing to get prepared. And now he were are with no leadership to protect the people. You are a billionaire banker or billionaire real estate holder, then here is a few million to keep you satisfied over the course of this pandemic. And yes this includes Trump and Kushner getting bailed out with their real estate properties. If you are a regular guy trying to feed his kids, well here is $1,200 if you are poor enough and if not then go starve.

His handling of this, when he could use it a as a platform to really push American first legislation is amazingly bad.

While Sleepy Joe, Commie Sanders, etc. on the Left certainly aren't the answer, it has become clear that Trump took the throne because he is an expert carpetbagger & marketer (I had always suspected this while other Trump supporting friends of mine thought he could do no wrong). This coronavirus pandemic has him exposed with his pants down it seems. At this point I don't care if it's King Kong in the White House. After we get a handle on the virus (which I know may take some time), I want the administration to try its best to help resurrect the economy and the great American middle class that the nation was once known for. Employ more Americans & bring more manufacturing back to these shores. There's a lot more I would add, but I will leave it at that for now.

I was never a fan of Trump before he ran for president. He came off as a shallow, insecure blowhard who acted gaudy just to get attention. Why does a man with so much success and at such an advanced age need attention so badly. Something is wrong there. Then when I would hear him talk it was insulting. He talks to people as if they are dumber than him. And I think that is his real problem, he is not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. Most of us can see through his "always positive" marketing gimmick talk. We are not swayed by it.

But we were swayed because he was the first presidential candidate in our life times to actually address the issues. The other candidates are talking about gay marriage, or more war in the middle east, or "pick yourself up by your bootstraps", Trump actually talked about the important issues. He very much deserved our support.

Then he gets into office and tosses it all away, again, I think because he is over confident in his intelligence and thinks the rest of us are dumb and just buy whatever he says.

Regardless of the reason, you are correct, we should expect this to be the event that forces production back into the USA. But it isn't, in fact in the midst of all this Trump is looking to move more manufacturing to India. Notice how Trump doesn't call out globalists who shipped our manufacturing overseas but instead blames "China"? The reason for that is he wants to move more manufacturing to India and if his base questions why he can say "well China is evil but we can trust India".

There is no political solution to this as you point out. Both parties are equally bad and owned by the same people. Trump isn't going to fix this and no one running against him will fix it. I can't believe anyone with a shred of decency and a IQ over 100 would want to be president if you are not allowed to make choices to help your own citizens. Which is why we are stuck with sold out Trump, brain damaged Biden, and childish idiot Bernie.
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(Yesterday 12:30 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Anyone would start to lose it with reporters after fielding hundreds of gotcha setup questions. Nearly every journo in there is working to bring about for his failure and downfall. During this crisis the objective is to get Trump to commit to something which he cannot then deliver. The 'Will every person that needs a ventilator get one?' question is a good example. When some people die without one, reporters can then say he failed the American people in their greatest time of need.


People are essentially quoting Trump and asking him what he meant. "Gotcha setup questions" sounds like what Trump would say before going off on an emotional/bs rant about where somebody worked or about it being a nasty question lol

The federal government is doing a much better job of late, after Trump down played the virus and didn't seem to have plan to deal with what we are currently experiencing in the USA, while often seeming more concerned with stock prices.



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Funny when I hear Trump bragging about the ratings of his Coronavirus updates?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-coronav...53997.html

At the first formal press briefing with his coronavirus task force on Feb. 26, President Trump said he didn’t agree with the assessment of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that an outbreak was “inevitable” in the United States, noting that the country had just 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and no deaths attributed to the virus.

“When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done,” Trump said at the time. “We have it so well under control. I mean, we really have done a very good job.”

Ever since, Trump has been moving the goalposts on the pandemic, and on Sunday, with coronavirus cases and deaths mounting, Trump said that keeping the U.S. death toll between 100,000 and 200,000 would be “a very good job.”

“If we could hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000, that’s a horrible number, maybe even less, but to 100,000 — so we have between 100- and 200,000 — we altogether have done a very good job,” Trump said during a task force press briefing in the White House Rose Garden.

The president repeatedly cited a projection by medical experts on the task force that as many as 2.2 million people would have died if the administration had not instituted social distancing and other mitigation measures.

“These are 2.2 million people would have died if we didn’t do what we’re doing,” Trump said at the briefing, during which he cited that number 16 times. “And now we’re looking at numbers that are going to be much, much, much lower than that. And it makes everything we’re doing feel much better to me.”
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