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< No - not even biomass is ok. Fuel should not compete with food and living space land. That shift was responsible for massive food price hikes all across the 3rd world as it impacted the poor in the Middle East and Africa mor than in any Western or even poor European country.

All supposedly green tech pushed is insane and agenda-driven. Relax about oil, gas and coal - it's enough to last us tens of thousands of years and we need more CO2. I have spoken.

Oldie but goodie take on Canada election: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gVlbzmORnBOR/
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(11-16-2019 06:26 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < No - not even biomass is ok. Fuel should not compete with food and living space land. That shift was responsible for massive food price hikes all across the 3rd world as it impacted the poor in the Middle East and Africa mor than in any Western or even poor European country.

All supposedly green tech pushed is insane and agenda-driven. Relax about oil, gas and coal - it's enough to last us tens of thousands of years and we need more CO2. I have spoken.

Oldie but goodie take on Canada election: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gVlbzmORnBOR/

I think you are taking an american view on biofuels, that view being that the government should subsidize farmers to grow corn and switchgrass to put into ethanol plants. Its the least profitable use of the farmland for farmers when you take the subsidies out.

The Canadian opportunities for biofuel comes from forest based sources, of which there is an incredible excess. It is of too poor quality for forest products, has no urban pressure and is of no use to farming. The 'fuel' does not get refined, just burned for steam turbines.

Other sources of fuel for electricity generation are currently cheaper, and forest biofuel only makes sense for more remote areas currently. There are even some of these plants operating today that are remote, but in proximity to forest products mills where they use the byproducts. Finland has also been running forest material based electricity generation for some time.

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< I would leave the forests alone. We have enough crude oil, gas and coal for millennia. Countries like Canada can heat and fuel both North and South America for maybe 1000 years +.

True environmentalists started on the right and conservative side. Preservation of woods goes way before coal mines which burrow deep into the earth and are not overly destructive to nature. You can have cities and parks next to coal mines.

All those biomass and "green" sources stem from the global warming con and wouldn't even be considered by any conservative governments.
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(11-16-2019 10:53 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < I would leave the forests alone. We have enough crude oil, gas and coal for millennia. Countries like Canada can heat and fuel both North and South America for maybe 1000 years +.

True environmentalists started on the right and conservative side. Preservation of woods goes way before coal mines which burrow deep into the earth and are not overly destructive to nature. You can have cities and parks next to coal mines.

All those biomass and "green" sources stem from the global warming con and wouldn't even be considered by any conservative governments.

Forests are renewable, mines are not. Coal mines are also not underground in anymore in North America, neither are most precious metal mines anymore.

Coal mining in Appalachia has abandoned the underground method to simply removing the ridges entirely and then dumping the tailing into the valleys. It is not pretty and not friendly to have beside urban developments due to alteration of surface water and dust.

Copper mine detention ponds in Northern Ontario are basins of permanently polluted water that are gated and secured.

My personal favorite is the Wawa ontario "kill zone" http://wikimapia.org/1194158/Wawa-Sulphur-Kill Emissions from mining processing here created a virtual dead zone on the landscape, where even now no fires are permitted because if it escape and turns into a wildfire it will release a toxic sulfur cloud. The forest harvesting around Wawa doesn't have any catastrophic effect.

Last, the terms that need to be considered are the words preservation, conservation and stewardship.

Conservation, means the careful use of. Preservation means no use, like a museum. Stewardship means conservation of another person's resources.

God made us stewards of his creation. We are to conserve it, ie use it carefully and not waste it. He did not make it to be preserved. Preservation is the walling off of nature so that it can be looked at from afar but not used. Elites love preservation, they can have the resources and riches that they need but once they are secured all other natural resources should be locked up so that other human's can't use it.

In that perspective, I agree that 'environmentalism' started on the right. Game and forest preserves were created so that there would be a population of animals to hunt, and timber to harvest in the future. The harvests of both populations were to be measured so that they would continue to produce. Ontario famous Algonquin 'park' is really a timber preserve, to conserve high quality hardwood and white pine supply, which is why there is logging in the park. Over time though, elitists wanted to replace conservation, with preservation and think that the highest use of natural resources should be for their recreational pursuits instead of industrial supply and employment for everyone. Algonquin park embodies this conflict today with people on the outside arguing for the cessation of logging.

The menomonee indians of Wisconsin are also conservationists. They buy up land that borders their reservation and close down the recreational cabins on it, then plant white pine. They use the land for hunting, fishing and logging white pine. The first two provide food for their residents and the last activity provides income and employment. If they turned their forests into a 'green museum' their income option would be to build casinos like all of the rest of the tribes have done. Over the years the state, and people of wisconsin have tried to legislate the preservation of the forests on their land and stop them from cutting trees. The indians have won every time and their forests are probably the best looking in the entire state, you can even see the outline of their forest lands from space. Their self sufficiency puts other native tribes to shame.

I do agree though, that coal, gas and oil should not be shut down in favor of higher priced bio fuels, there are just some places where it makes more sense. Those places are more remote communities that instead of hauling in coal and oil for power generation, can use the resources that are around them.

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< Sure - but those are exceptions. And I am not opposed to logging. In fact - Western logging companies have a ton of regulations in place to make sure that they replant what they took out. In some countries even more bountiful forests were created that way.

Whether any local biomass project is viable is frankly not that relevant since most is limited to certain regions.

In fact you mention something good - preservation vs conversationism. I am for the latter and the globohomos are for the first. The Hunger Games movies were good in how they showed the truly existing Agenda 21 in the end-stages. The globalists have the goals to create massive untouched forests and areas with no humans allowed while the remaining people live mostly in austere poverty and even malnourishment. The anti-human agenda of those leftie environmental movements are insane. The guys on the right want to strike a balance between human needs and long-term preservation of nature. Logging companies paying for replanting of woods vs razing and burning it all like in Brazil and then planting soy for export that goes mostly to China for soy-sauce.

(And even there barely any rainforest was lost in the recent decades - they mostly burn the fields which were de-forested anyway.)

But you see this anti-human agenda anywhere in our times. It's aking to the PETA aganda on pets. Most don't know that PETA shelters kill all animals instead of finding them homes. Their goal is to essentially get rid of all pets for the sake of the pets with only few being allowed. That's like murdering 99% of all humans on earth in order ease their suffering. The same insane policies are applied in that field - Alberta being penalized for producing those evil CO2 emissions. But everyone knows that LGBTQ and global warming are the real issues - until the entire ship crashes down.
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(11-16-2019 01:06 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < Sure - but those are exceptions. And I am not opposed to logging. In fact - Western logging companies have a ton of regulations in place to make sure that they replant what they took out. In some countries even more bountiful forests were created that way.

Whether any local biomass project is viable is frankly not that relevant since most is limited to certain regions.

In fact you mention something good - preservation vs conversationism. I am for the latter and the globohomos are for the first. The Hunger Games movies were good in how they showed the truly existing Agenda 21 in the end-stages. The globalists have the goals to create massive untouched forests and areas with no humans allowed while the remaining people live mostly in austere poverty and even malnourishment. The anti-human agenda of those leftie environmental movements are insane. The guys on the right want to strike a balance between human needs and long-term preservation of nature. Logging companies paying for replanting of woods vs razing and burning it all like in Brazil and then planting soy for export that goes mostly to China for soy-sauce.

(And even there barely any rainforest was lost in the recent decades - they mostly burn the fields which were de-forested anyway.)

But you see this anti-human agenda anywhere in our times. It's aking to the PETA aganda on pets. Most don't know that PETA shelters kill all animals instead of finding them homes. Their goal is to essentially get rid of all pets for the sake of the pets with only few being allowed. That's like murdering 99% of all humans on earth in order ease their suffering. The same insane policies are applied in that field - Alberta being penalized for producing those evil CO2 emissions. But everyone knows that LGBTQ and global warming are the real issues - until the entire ship crashes down.

True, the control of public lands (see also bundy ranchers) to exclude people from them is a great globohomo scheme. By making it essentially illegal to be on public lands they can be used as a buffer between the rich and poor and as an excuse to chase out homesteaders and squatters during an urban collapse.

One example I recall was again in the brazillian rainforest. Some company gave the government money to preserve a forest so that it could 'capture carbon' they subsequently hired armed guards and kicked all of the natives out.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/...-1.5367945

Good.

I mostly grew up in Eastern Ontario, but if Alberta ever became independent, I'd become an Albertan right away. I'd buy property or do whatever it takes, but I'd be there. The smug arrogance of the Canadian elite, ignoring rural people, letting our towns starve and die while you spend money installing needle exchange boxes in the bathrooms of all your big city restaurants. All for the good of the people.

The smug cunts have utterly outed themselves this year, prime minister blackface leading the charge. There is no détente with these people, every concession is a sign of weakness to them, and they plant their flag there and ask for further concessions.

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Quote: “If my voice is trembling, it’s because I am terribly angry, to the point where I would be happy to fight for our freedom and I literally mean with a rifle.” “Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark!”
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^ Given the lack of "social acceptability" for Western Canadian hydrocarbons in Quebec, I don't understand why this is a problem? One would have thought this propane shortage would be a GOOD thing. A chance for Quebec to get off the dirty heroin needle of dirty oil and gas.

It's not like modern society needs fossil fuels to continue to exist or anything - at least that's what the media and Laurentians tell me several times a day. Canada is supposed to be post fossil fuel!
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Andrew Scheer has resigned

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^ I wonder who the Liberals have lined up to replace him.

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(12-12-2019 12:02 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  ^ I wonder who the Liberals have lined up to replace him.

Guaranteed they’re going to go Gay for McKay

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I'm hoping for Pierre P.

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(12-12-2019 01:56 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  
(12-12-2019 12:02 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  ^ I wonder who the Liberals have lined up to replace him.

Guaranteed they’re going to go Gay for McKay

I agree, McKay is to Trudeau what Chevy is to GMC. Canada is the pro-wrestling of democracy nowadays.

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Today I learned that Dr. Norman Bethune was a member of the Communist Party of Canada and socialism advocate. No wonder chairman Mao and the Chinese people loved him so much and no wonder they talk about him like a God in public schools. It makes a lot of sense now.

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Pierre is our man, im getting a conservative membership just to vote for him.
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(01-16-2020 12:22 PM)uncledick Wrote:  Pierre is our man, im getting a conservative membership just to vote for him.

Harper seems to be backing him, I'm hoping for him as well.

The Red Torys can GTFO, so can the media hyping them up, so determined to have them be carbon copies of the LPC.

CBC won't shut up about the CPC key issues being "LBGT, baby killing and Climate".

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Have you notice the rebranding of Environment Canada.

It is now "Environment and Climate Change Canada"

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(01-17-2020 12:43 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  Have you notice the rebranding of Environment Canada.

It is now "Environment and Climate Change Canada"

Although these changes often pass under the radar of most people, I find they are very telling. Most significantly, the re-branding of Citizenship and Immigration Canada to "Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada". Take note, suckers: you've been relegated to 3rd place.

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Balkanization and secession is the only way out for Texas.

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(01-17-2020 10:10 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Balkanization and secession is the only way out for Alberta.

There, fixed it for you so it can stay in the Canada thread.

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We need control over our immigration on a provincial and municipal level.

Without control over immigration, texas and alberta will both go the way of the do- do.

I say municipal becase in Ontario we have the GTA. I would like the GTA to be severed off into an autonomous district / province. They have nothing to do with us good ontarians.

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(01-17-2020 11:35 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  We need control over our immigration on a provincial and municipal level.

Without control over immigration, texas and alberta will both go the way of the do- do.

I say municipal becase in Ontario we have the GTA. I would like the GTA to be severed off into an autonomous district / province. They have nothing to do with us good ontarians.

Here you go https://www.chroniclejournal.com/news/lo...bbda0.html

This guy has been pushing to separate Northern Ontario into its own province, this movement has also been mixed at times with a notion to have northwestern ontario join with Manitoba (which makes a ton of sense).

Have Manitoba go all the way to Sault Ste Marie.

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Trudeau is giving 25K to families of the Iranians killed in that airplane that Iran blew up, is this normal?

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(01-17-2020 01:35 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(01-17-2020 11:35 AM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  We need control over our immigration on a provincial and municipal level.

Without control over immigration, texas and alberta will both go the way of the do- do.

I say municipal becase in Ontario we have the GTA. I would like the GTA to be severed off into an autonomous district / province. They have nothing to do with us good ontarians.

Here you go https://www.chroniclejournal.com/news/lo...bbda0.html

This guy has been pushing to separate Northern Ontario into its own province, this movement has also been mixed at times with a notion to have northwestern ontario join with Manitoba (which makes a ton of sense).

Have Manitoba go all the way to Sault Ste Marie.

I've heard of that, makes a ton of sense actually.

What about us Southern Ontario Bros? Can we just join Michigan and start utilizing our 2nd amendment rights.

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If you get Detroit lumped into the province, we'd definitely need that amendment...

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