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(11-09-2019 08:32 PM)Laner Wrote:  I have mixed feelings on this.

My experience is with TFAP. Most immigrants I know are pretty conservative, save the European and Americans. Chinese especially are the ones at school board meeting yelling til midnight against progressive agendas.

But then take away the cities vote and Canada is pretty conservative outside the freeloading maritime. Which is indicative that most immigrants in cities vote progressive. Asian girls vote with the herd. Indian girls are insufferable feminists likely because Indian men are unabashedly masculine.

I too am surrounded by conservative people, even in Vancouver. A few sit a bit on the fence in public and will never admit anymore to ANY conservative words. And in today superficial environment this is good enough.

That's exactly what I meant - they are more conservative as groups, but they vote either tribal when it's one of them running for office or they vote on simple issues like more welfare or more immigrants as they want their cousins and uncles to come over too.

That is why those groups behave the same all across the West in voting patterns. The stats Toofinepoint pointed to did not include an ethnic makeup as the ones I posted were also 2nd or 4th generation in the US. Some countries deliberately don't publish those voting stats.

I know for example that Muslims are more conservative on virtually all issues, but they will vote for the party which gives more welfare, opens the borders more or they vote for Islamic option if one is given. And funnily enough they vote for the far left, but when the far left opens trannie hour in their school, then they scream bloody murder and protest.

And if you come to the 2nd gen option then it does not get better - many Western Indians are insufferable feminists - the woke Indian racism-obsessed comedian who apes black culture (Lilly Singh etc. ) is just a mere symptom of it. There are scores of smart 3rd gen Asians who populate the top Antifa leadders.

But ultimately it does not matter much when all those ethnicities usually vote for more leftism while European descdants don't. Quebec and the French there are a special case since they are separatist socialists and the Euro-Identitarians there who are conservative vote for them for other reasons (wanting to limit immigration).

While we don't have clear numbers shown I would bet good money that the voting pattern is identical to all Western countries in the world with Canada not being some kind of unique exception. If all those ethnicities voted like Russian immigrants to Canada, then you can bet your left nutsack that the elite would stop all immigration from all those countries just as they bar Russians from moving to Canada or the US easily. These are not the migrants they want - White future conservatives and Republicans.
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(11-10-2019 04:49 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  
(11-09-2019 04:41 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 08:44 AM)Emancipator Wrote:  Many Asians vote conservative, the ridings in the GTA that the CPC won have a large Asian pop. Same goes for Metro Vancouver, with the CPC winning Richmond and another heavy Korean riding in Coquitlam using a drop in candidate from Ontario lol (which is undergoing a recount officially requested by the NDP)

Looks like Kenney and Alberta is looking at leaving the CPP and going it’s own ala Quebec, their portion is $40B, and they pay in a lot more than they take out (lower working age than the ROC in addition to a workforce predominantly male). This gives Alberta significant leverage as the rest of Canada knows Alberta leaving the CPP results in the ROC paying a higher % increase in contributions.

Many - as in many black Americans vote Republicans. Sure buddy - keep telling yourself that. The rates are all the same all across the West - Democrats, social welfare pushers and open-borders-tards get the most votes:
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With all due respect Zel I was just giving local context, see my signature for the real endgame and reality in the big picture, in total agreement.

2019 results,

Richmond Centre, Alice Wong CPC 49% of the vote, 1.4% PPC 52% population of Chinese descent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond..._district)

Steveston-Richmond East, Kenny Chiu CPC 41% of the vote, 47% Chinese
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevesto...hmond_East

Markham Unionville, Bob Saroya CPC 48.9% of the vote, PPC 1.6%, 57% Chinese
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markham—Unionville

Sure, but the numbers I posted of the Chinese being some of the most Western-partisan in the US with 61% back this up. They are likely one of the few groups who will vote for the conservative Indian somewhat more than the liberal Chinese option.

Chinese voters may indeed behave more like European ones over time - the rest not so much.

Also another point - the Kenny Chiu just got 42% of the votes in a 47%+ Chinese dominated region. That tells you clearly that the Chinese vote was split heavily despite being one of their tribe and being conservative. According to your opinion he would have to have won by a landslide voted in by the overwhelmingly conservative Canadian Chinese tribe. But it wasn't so and many Chinese voted for the liberals there for sure.

Whether some regions are split more to 40-60 vs 60-40 for the general rule of thumb does not matter much in the long run.
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A good vid on why non-Whites in all Western countries will always vote more left ranging from 60% to 98% is simple. (Average 70% - Canada roughly the same)

They will vote even left even if they outperform Whites as many Jews and Asians do. The reason is that the left gives them status in a nation that is not theirs. So that works even to their advantage even if colleges now discriminate against them. I couldn't point the finger to it, but this guy John Mark makes a good case and it makes perfect sense.

The reverse is obviously true in their homecountries. The leftist dogma would empower minorities in their nations which is the opposite of what they want.

There is also the issue of kinship with the more right, conservative system of Western parties. By default are they obviously more connected with the core demographic and the others are just alienated by it. So changes are unlikely to happen - don't even happen with Ashkenazis who are intermarried by rates of 50% and often look like the gentiles.

And it's honestly nothing too personal. Possibly that a 10% minority in Japan would vote for the left in a majority if they received more status from them that way.
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(11-10-2019 06:10 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  And if you come to the 2nd gen option then it does not get better - many Western Indians are insufferable feminists - the woke Indian racism-obsessed comedian who apes black culture (Lilly Singh etc. ) is just a mere symptom of it. There are scores of smart 3rd gen Asians who populate the top Antifa leadders.

I've noticed that some of the most batshit crazy SJWs are Indian women. Google "Hugh Mungus" for an example.
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Don Cherry fired. Coach's Corner is done.

He's not a politician, but this is a watershed moment for Canadian society.

SJWs and leftists have been gunning for him for years. They finally got him.
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Fuck Rogers, and this outrage from the Canadian SJW environment. He didn’t say anything wrong. Firing one of the biggest supporters of Canadian veterans on Remembrance Day is a fag move.

Conservative: "It's shameful how some people don't respect our heritage and the sacrifices our veterans made for this country."

Progressive: "How dare you talk about brown people like that!"

Conservative: "I didn't say anything about race."

Progressive: "It was implied by the context!"

Conservative: "Are you presuming that a minority would be less likely to support Canadian heritage?"

Progressive: ...

Blackface is good to go though !

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Sad day for Canada, I think that this a pivotal moment for Canadian culture, what’s left of it anyway.

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^^^^ Don advocating for Canada First
30+ years they finally got him off tv
Don Cherry went to bat for Ron twice saving his job, meanwhile Ron throws him under the bus this weekend

At least Don didn’t give a half assed apology, Rogers probably tried to make him, he refused hence the firing

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(11-11-2019 03:18 PM)scotian Wrote:  Sad day for Canada, I think that this a pivotal moment for Canadian culture, what’s left of it anyway.

I can't find the post, but however many pages ago I mentioned that Cherry is the last icon of "Old Canada"

Now he's a 'racist bigot'

I wondered if he would get a state funeral like stompin tom when he dies, now I think its going to be more like Trudeau dressed up in black face taking a dump on his casket.

Time to add on some 'remembrances' to Rememberance day. Remember the day they fired Don Cherry for being Don Cherry.

What a disgrace.

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Rogers has been on a cost cutting spree gutting high priced talent, Big Don I was always nervous for, this was both executives being opportunistic and both another tragedy of the hysterics present in today's culture.

Rogers will pay deeply for this as thier Toronto hysterics have got them blind to the fact that majority of hockey loving Canadians share Don's views. Myself as a coloured Canadian was not offended one bit by Don and molded in approval. I give no fucks for some newcomer thinking bee can come here and change shit. Canada haa it's normal which sets a foundation where it can be an accpeting place.

Ron will be next because karma will get him.

I didn't think I'd ever see Don get fired, I honestly thought they would roll him out. Don has been a cultural figure for my whole entire life, he is part of Canadiana.
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(11-11-2019 08:13 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  



A good vid on why non-Whites in all Western countries will always vote more left ranging from 60% to 98% is simple. (Average 70% - Canada roughly the same)

They will vote even left even if they outperform Whites as many Jews and Asians do. The reason is that the left gives them status in a nation that is not theirs. So that works even to their advantage even if colleges now discriminate against them. I couldn't point the finger to it, but this guy John Mark makes a good case and it makes perfect sense.

The reverse is obviously true in their homecountries. The leftist dogma would empower minorities in their nations which is the opposite of what they want.

There is also the issue of kinship with the more right, conservative system of Western parties. By default are they obviously more connected with the core demographic and the others are just alienated by it. So changes are unlikely to happen - don't even happen with Ashkenazis who are intermarried by rates of 50% and often look like the gentiles.

And it's honestly nothing too personal. Possibly that a 10% minority in Japan would vote for the left in a majority if they received more status from them that way.

This is a good working theory on why ethnic minorities have a strong tendency to vote left even when they are discriminated against. For the longest time I've been perplexed by Chinese and Indians arguing in favour of affirmative action (most of the time by individuals that already got theirs). The rest still vote overwhelmingly left despite knowing they are being shafted in favour of other groups (blacks, Hispanics, native American). My guess is that the lower IQ Asian and Indians vote left because they believe leftist government will open the door for the rest of their friends and family to come over and enjoy a higher standard of living.

I'm still sifting through the video. Thanks for the redpills.
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(11-11-2019 05:42 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 03:18 PM)scotian Wrote:  Sad day for Canada, I think that this a pivotal moment for Canadian culture, what’s left of it anyway.

I can't find the post, but however many pages ago I mentioned that Cherry is the last icon of "Old Canada"

Now he's a 'racist bigot'
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What a disgrace.

Yeah I remember.

85 years old and they couldn't even give him a classy send off.

Bunch of corporate fuckfaces

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What a bunch of morons at Sportsnet. All they had to say was "We don't agree with his opinion, but we respect people having opinions of their own." Instead they toss him out on Remembrance day right after he takes a stand for Remembrance day.

Then you have all the moron politicians like John Tory condemning Don's words. They are just as bad and part of the problem as Sportsnet. They have created an environment where every word out of your mouth must be in accordance with their progressive PC values. Their doctrine is that immigrants are more valuable than native stock, white men are evil and deserve to be discriminated against for the greater good, and that the government should take more of your money because they can spend it better than you can. Your speech must align with this doctrine. If you don't toe the line, they will scream about being victims and about how you are a racist. They will come for your job and try to make an example out of you.

It's a really sad state of affairs.
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(11-11-2019 05:42 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 03:18 PM)scotian Wrote:  Sad day for Canada, I think that this a pivotal moment for Canadian culture, what’s left of it anyway.

I can't find the post, but however many pages ago I mentioned that Cherry is the last icon of "Old Canada"

Now he's a 'racist bigot'

I wondered if he would get a state funeral like stompin tom when he dies, now I think its going to be more like Trudeau dressed up in black face taking a dump on his casket.

Time to add on some 'remembrances' to Rememberance day. Remember the day they fired Don Cherry for being Don Cherry.

What a disgrace.

If I recall correctly you made that post after Gord Downey passed away, Cherry truly is a Canadian icon, warts and all. I feel like our country is kicking it up a notch regional alienation and an identity crisis lately, I’ve observed some things in the past few weeks that really has me wondering what direction this country is going:

-Trudeau’s win by playing dirty and smearing Scheer as a religious bigot and many Canadians believing that abortion and gay rights are two of the most important issues facing our country today.

-About 2/3s of our country voting for parties that want to royally fuck Alberta/Sask/BC Interior by limiting each province’s ability to develop and export their natural resources.

-I stayed on Granville street in Vancouver two nights ago and decided to walk to East Hastings to see the freak show and get a cheap lunch, in the half an hour or so that I was there, I saw three people stretched out on the sidewalk with paramedics attending them, the opiate crisis is real.

-I saw Doug Saunders’ book about how they’re trying to increase our population up to 100 million people by the end of the century.

-Now this Don Cherry BS

It seems like we’re going full speed ahead with the globohomo and demographic change, I still think that our country is big enough to handle current rates of immigration for awhile but walking around Vancouver, it did seem very crowded and the real estate prices are fucking crazy. Personally, I’m going to try to figure out how to profit from these changes, still have faith in our core institutions and our ability to remain a safe, prosperous nation but the Canada that I knew growing up is quickly disappearing.

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(11-12-2019 02:03 AM)scotian Wrote:  -Now this Don Cherry BS

So do the liberal types in Canada just hate hockey now? It sounds like this is bad for the Nhl all around. This rogers thing is a big deal. 5 billion dollars and it banked big on Don Cherry, even though he's so old. And that wasn't nothing bad he said at all. Wierd shit.

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< There are ways to profit from mass migration and demographic change. Investing in small central rental appartments is one such way. A buddy specialized in buying out larger appartments and changing them into professionally looking room-rentals comparable to a good AirBnB. Tiny rental appartments offer some of the best ROIs of them all in many cities in the West. Now even big real estate funds are attempting that game, but they usually cannot catch the local urban market and are better at buying new properties.

The country may change and deteriorate later, but that does not mean that you cannot profit from it and live in a different area in comfort.
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(11-12-2019 02:03 AM)scotian Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 05:42 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 03:18 PM)scotian Wrote:  Sad day for Canada, I think that this a pivotal moment for Canadian culture, what’s left of it anyway.

I can't find the post, but however many pages ago I mentioned that Cherry is the last icon of "Old Canada"

Now he's a 'racist bigot'

I wondered if he would get a state funeral like stompin tom when he dies, now I think its going to be more like Trudeau dressed up in black face taking a dump on his casket.

Time to add on some 'remembrances' to Rememberance day. Remember the day they fired Don Cherry for being Don Cherry.

What a disgrace.

If I recall correctly you made that post after Gord Downey passed away, Cherry truly is a Canadian icon, warts and all. I feel like our country is kicking it up a notch regional alienation and an identity crisis lately, I’ve observed some things in the past few weeks that really has me wondering what direction this country is going:

-Trudeau’s win by playing dirty and smearing Scheer as a religious bigot and many Canadians believing that abortion and gay rights are two of the most important issues facing our country today.

-About 2/3s of our country voting for parties that want to royally fuck Alberta/Sask/BC Interior by limiting each province’s ability to develop and export their natural resources.

-I stayed on Granville street in Vancouver two nights ago and decided to walk to East Hastings to see the freak show and get a cheap lunch, in the half an hour or so that I was there, I saw three people stretched out on the sidewalk with paramedics attending them, the opiate crisis is real.

-I saw Doug Saunders’ book about how they’re trying to increase our population up to 100 million people by the end of the century.

-Now this Don Cherry BS

It seems like we’re going full speed ahead with the globohomo and demographic change, I still think that our country is big enough to handle current rates of immigration for awhile but walking around Vancouver, it did seem very crowded and the real estate prices are fucking crazy. Personally, I’m going to try to figure out how to profit from these changes, still have faith in our core institutions and our ability to remain a safe, prosperous nation but the Canada that I knew growing up is quickly disappearing.

I was amazed to read twitter and the amount of Canadians that were happy to see Don Cherry fired. I thought I'd see protest tweets and neutral/nothing, but no, the rage mob is happy to see senior citizens canned for having opinions.

Things are starting to get uncomfortable.

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Ya the out cry is pretty muted in this country for Don. I think its a sign of the encroaching collective end of European Canada, entering the era of brown/mulatto canada. Even the sport of hockey itself will be taken over by the rise of NBA and Soccer viewership in the next 10-20 years.

Personally i dont wear the poppy, more because i strongly believe that if the collective veterans that lived in Canada in say 1946, that participated in both WW1and WW2 could be transported to 2020 Canada, for just one day, especially to one of our glorious "diverse" major cities, with all the multicultural flavor and societal degeneracy on display, on return to their time, they would immediately turn their guns on their superiors, take over parliament by force and institute a constitution that would never allow the changes that have occured in this country in the preceding 60-70 years... the blackpill in me thinks they would even be digging up hitlers grave and sending special ops to rescue those on trial in nuremberg, but who knows.

That said i think those veterans from WW1-2 wouldnt want their decendants to wear a emblem to honor their friends and loved ones who died for a fleeting period of peace and ultimately for the manifestation of present day clown world in all its forms, and then the upcoming future totalitarianism of being thrown in a mass grave for using the word faggot in a tweet.
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Cherry went on TV and was offensive. That's been his job for almost 40 years. Except this time he got fired for it. Obviously a hundred things are going on, including woke identity politics, the current cultural slide, the God of Open Borders (who is even more untouchable in Canada than the God of "Free" Healthcare), the need to virtue signal ever more leftist views and yes, as at least one person pointed out above, Rogers having spent too much money on their NHL coverage and rights and needing to cut.

I myself didn't care for Cherry's notion that everyone in Canada must either share his views of the military (even though I myself share them), or at least they must SIGNAL they share that view by wearing a poppy. That sounds way too much like where the left has been going for the last few years. Policing thoughts and requiring virtue signalling is a surefire way to build a crumbling dystopia.

That said, there is no way on earth he ought to have been fired for what he said. His content has been controversial for years. He's said far more bigoted things than this. Moreover, Laurentian elitists say things like this from the opposite perspective all day, every day on every social and political platform. They don't lose their jobs when they tell me I must not only think like them (or at least signal I do) but that I'm a Nazi who should lose his job if I don't.

I signed the petition supporting the man. I encourage others to do so.

I think he'll be getting job offers elsewhere. He'll be good.
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Quote:-About 2/3s of our country voting for parties that want to royally fuck Alberta/Sask/BC Interior by limiting each province’s ability to develop and export their natural resources.

That is the epitome of insanity. Even among the socialist-minded Norwegians no one would dream of attacking crude oil production. They know that Norway got rich due to oil. Restricting that or taxing it on grounds of global warming would amount to insanity. Many work there and have well-paid jobs. But I guess in Canada it's far removed from most people and they think that the money grows on trees somewhere.
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5 million "green jobs"! Green New Deal NOW!!!

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(11-12-2019 04:23 PM)911 Wrote:  5 million "green jobs"! Green New Deal NOW!!!

I’ve worked on a couple of green energy projects, a carbon capture facility at a coal fired power plant in Saskatchewan and a biomass boiler plant in BC. I don’t care what industry I’m in but oil and gas pays the most. If we can build a bunch of green facilities that actually make money and employ lots of people as oil and gas does, then I encourage it, green is cleaner to work in anyway, bitumen is pretty nasty shit. I say we go full steam ahead on both for the near future, if the green tech is viable then why not do it?

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RE: The Canada Political Thread
(11-12-2019 04:23 PM)911 Wrote:  5 million "green jobs"! Green New Deal NOW!!!

I agree, green deal now, allow the export of raw timber out of Canada and use for biofuel projects. Tree huggers would get renewable energy, rural folks would be letting the chainsaws rip to supply it.

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(11-12-2019 05:33 PM)scotian Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 04:23 PM)911 Wrote:  5 million "green jobs"! Green New Deal NOW!!!

I’ve worked on a couple of green energy projects, a carbon capture facility at a coal fired power plant in Saskatchewan and a biomass boiler plant in BC. I don’t care what industry I’m in but oil and gas pays the most. If we can build a bunch of green facilities that actually make money and employ lots of people as oil and gas does, then I encourage it, green is cleaner to work in anyway, bitumen is pretty nasty shit. I say we go full steam ahead on both for the near future, if the green tech is viable then why not do it?

Green jobs are mostly BS, like carbon capture projects. CO2 has negligable impact on climate and is instead a powerful plant fertilizer. The notion that we have to fund industrial carbon capture setups is really retarded.

Yeah we can sponsor some green power research, like microhydro or newer tech nuclear fission.

Biomass is OK, but we have 500 years' worth of oil, a quarter trillion barrels! We should be producing twice as much, exporting a lot of it, and subsidizing domestic oil. $0.55-$0.75c/liter gas domestically, and a $5-$10 per barrel export tax. Give some of that to the provinces carrying it in their pipelines.

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