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I call bullshit on the ppc causing the conservatives to lose. The conservatives did it all to themselves, the ppc was a fart in the wind. In my riding the cons won by thousands of votes... the ppc won hundreds. Even in the close calls, the ppc may have taken a seat or two from cons, but thats it. In most ridings the left wing parties win by 5 or more percentage points. Sure if all those ppc votes were in the exact right spots it would matter, but only god and corrupt election canada officals know where the votes are needed in the end.
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Alberta has propped up this country with energy and resources far more than effectively any other province. What we need to be doing is refining at home and exporting finished product to the rest of the world. We should be partnered with provinces that will allow us to ship through them and to the rest of the world, BC has been impossible to deal with.

One of the main issues is that we are a primary resource provider, and then purchase back our oil from other countries at a premium. The reason that WCS trades at a deficit to WTI and Brent is that it is inaccessible - due to pipelines not being built, and transport being restricted by interests both internal and external to Canada.

Real estate and construction now represent Canada's GDP at nearly 10%. This is completely unsustainable, and manufacturing is taking a dive.

I can see there seriously being a depression within the next 2-4 years, with real estate deflating, with manufacturing leaving, and with technology increasing.

I love the hilarity of the push toward technology in my city - by the nature of technology, it can be decentralized and moved to wherever wages are lowest and there are people willing to work. Tech is not the answer.

Canada has the resources the world wants. We should move to position ourselves to also secondary and tertiary providers as well.

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@jefferyjerpp

Let's stick to talking about Canadian politics and not discuss Eastern Europe, as I'm sure you haven't spent anytime there.

If the region is a major winner, why are the young leaving in droves.

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(10-23-2019 04:33 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  The Liberals beat the Cons by 36 seats. The PPC cost the Cons 7 seats. Bernier didn't even get 300,000 votes, in a country of over 37 million. Scheer won the popular vote by almost 250,000 votes.

In a somewhat free country, people are entitled to vote for anyone they like. I have no issue with who people vote for, but while it make some people feel heroic to say they voted for someone with no chance, it serves ZERO practical purpose. The rhinoceros party, which probably got a similar percentage (1.5 %) would have been another alternative to these people.

Like Max these people can't see their part in and accept responsibility for their role in re-electing Trudeau and the Liberals.

It isn't the overall popular vote, or even the several ridings that the Liberals/NDP won by the margin of vote sucked up by the PPC.

It was the wasted energy infighting on the right.

Energy that should have been spent convincing others that the Scheer and the CPC were the solution to the Liberals.

The right needs to be united to win. The people who voted PPC don't know how to win.

There was ZERO reason to take the right down this road a year out from an election. No reason other than to splite the party that rejected Max.

Disagree strongly.

Canada needs a hard-right party to shift the Overton Window and make the Cons stand for something yet at the same time seem more reasonable.

Things like this are always painful when they first happen. At the end of the day, the Libs / left in general has slightly less political power after this election. So it wasn't even that painful.

Scheer and the CPC weren't a good solution. Hopefully this close loss will make them actually try to be one next time. And having a guy to the right of him that he can join in calling a racist will take some pressure off him (if he embraces it).

I mean, we're just talking here. Of course I could be missing some important strategic issues.

But the Reform party existing and growing its brand is what eventually led to a re-uniting of the right and a Con majority being elected in the past.
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Toronto and the GTA went full liberal.

The reason being because everyone in Ontario hates the Conservative premier Ford and his aggressive cuts on social programs.

That was a big factor in the Liberal victory.

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(10-23-2019 03:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Toronto and the GTA went full liberal.

The reason being because everyone in Ontario hates the Conservative premier Ford and his aggressive cuts on social programs.

That was a big factor in the Liberal victory.

Ford could not even get rid of 12 useless government workers. All a leftist government needs to do to burn the country down is hire a massive amount of useless workers on their way out so the next government is forced to do drastic measures in order to bail out the sinking ship. Then scream about MAH SOCIAL PROGRAMS!

Not sure what Ontario Liberals hired for padded government jobs, but Alberta shitcanned 180,000 private sector workers and hired 80,000 liberal arts graduates.
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Alot of Toronto liberals don't even like Trudeau. The conservatives lost an unloseble election. They're almost Liberal light.

I hear Toronto Liberals complain about Bramladesh (Brampton), the unfair housing market (due to excessive immigration), and shit wages as a result of third worlders offering to work long hours at bullshit rates all the time. They wouldn't say as much, but many Liberals were begging for a conservative out.

The party has no backbone. It's policies aren't dissimilar to the libs. They didn't have the balls to truly separate themselves and as a result, conservative support was lukewarm, and swing liberals didn't hear enough to secretly vote conservative.
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(10-22-2019 10:47 PM)Aurini Wrote:  Republic of Western Canada.


Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.

Northwestern Ontario has campaigns that arise every so often to join Manitoba as the rest of Ontario treats it like it doesn't exist.

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I'd like a little more context as as an American.

My sense is that Toronto and surroundings is a liberal nightmare a la Wash DC. I assume Vancouver is too. And then the rest of the country is more conservative, although not sure about Quebec. Guessing there a city liberal / rural conservative divide in the Canada as is almost overwhelming the case in the US?

Are there any burgeoning tent cities in Canada like Roosh has chronicled in Portland and LA?

What is the minority and immigrant/invader impact on elections? I presume they are overwhelmingly voting for the liberal wing as they do in the US?

I also didn't understand Mr. Aurini's graph- what does the red and blue indicate?
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We don't have tent cities in Canada.

A lot of wealthy areas in Toronto and the suburbs voted Liberal due to Doug Ford looking to cut white collar jobs, like teachers and government workers.

The popular vote was won by the conservatives, but that wasn't enough to get the win.

What is a immigrant invader?

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(10-08-2019 12:09 PM)Laner Wrote:  Confederacy is on its death bed.

Its pretty apparent, even before last nights debate, that Quebec does not want anything to do with Canada, but will hold Canada ransom on what it feels is best for Quebec.

This isolates the west, as Ontario has all the power. Alberta will never be able to move forward, so they are going to pull the pin eventually. Most likely to join the USA. The instant success of having such a large northern economy, and suddenly Albertan's who are flush with cash will have everyone from Dawson Creek to Fort Nelson and even down to Prince George fighting to get into the good stuff. BC will isolate Vancouver and Victoria. Saskatchewan will stick with Alberta and even Manitoba would likely join - enough of them drive down to Minneapolis already to buy things.

Chinese communists have 300,000 members in Canada, with tens of thousands pouring in each year. Indians are isolating themselves into little fiefdoms where they enslave other lower caste Indians. Voting blocks in cities will become the rule. Schools will separate to stop violence. Poor whites will eventually have no choice but rally together otherwise their kids will continue to get the beats from brown kids. Asian and whites will stand together for a while till the Asians don't need them anymore, then its probably a slide back to collectivism for them.

Most white Canadians of middle to low class will start heading to the outer suburbs and small towns. The economy of the cities will continue to increase as more access to cheap foreign labour expands, then sputters out as ingenuity decreases. Small towns will suffer under insane energy costs as ever more left wing governments continue to chase out foreign energy investment, while increasing our energy costs here. Farmers will be forced to use foreign labour to keep their farms, and the foreign labour will then use the private lending of small kings located in Vancouver and Toronto to start buying up the farmland. Small farm towns become ghost towns as foreign farm owners and their cheap labour only use foreign channels for their goods, further isolating Canadian farmers.

This is my black pill for the day. I don't believe most of it, but the ingredients are all there to make it possible.

Spot on analysis.

Everyone blaming the conservatives for the loss but nobody is blaming the real reason; demographics. With the rate of immigration, the whole GTA has been changed to some multicultural hellhole where every ethnicity lives in their ghettos and only cares about their tribal interests. Although Scheer did not have any personality, no sane person should have voted for Trudeau. A normal person would have never voted him based on his ethics violations, his god awful india trip, the blackface photos, the real job creation performance and the SNC-Lavalin scandal. But it was in July I had already known when the Liberals were going to win because of immigration policies and the increased child tax benefits just in time for the election.

GTA breakdown:

First all the Muslim people will always vote liberal. They all abuse the welfare system and their wives have 5 or 6 kids just for the child tax benefits all while they work cash jobs. They know this free money comes from hardworking people getting taxed to death but they do not care. As long as my tribe is fed, fuck the rest of society. Add the bonus of special protections by the government and they will vote for any sodomite. In my condo my older Paki neighbor was asking me who I was going to vote for. He then told me how at the mosque they are taught to vote liberal because it will strengthen Islam in Canada. I joked and said Islam was pretty strong in Pakistan, you should ask the priest why he left there.

The black people also follow the same thought process of child tax benefits and government handouts so they vote liberal. But they make it seem that conservatives are racist so they have to vote liberal.

Next you got all the Indian people. They want their entire country to immigrate to Canada. All voting for liberal immigration policies so they can bring in all their clans. Especially their grandparents so that can get the pension plan money this stupid government gives to anyone who has not worked in this country.

The tamil people are like indian people but also abuse every form of government assistance.

The chinese nationals are happy with status quo of them being able to freely migrate to Canada with their ill gotten gains. They are also happy with a cuck for PM who gets scared of China. The chinamen laugh at Trudeau, it was only the past year when I was in Toronto I learned how nationalistic these motherfuckers were.

The white people in this region are so cucked that they are scared to have any negative thoughts on immigration or on other races so they vote liberal to appear more progressive. The dude running from that PPC party only talked about just reducing immigration and was painted as racist the whole campaign.

The sodomites will always vote for the sodomite. They control the media in this country and every piece of media was praising the Liberal or NDP campaign.

I don’t know how the Filipinos vote or what scams they run because I am not too familiar with them.

Here is my black pill. This country is done. the conservatives and liberals were neck and neck but if you looked it as a left wing vs right wing then you will see how left this country really is (counting all the left wing parties together). With 1.2 million people coming for next election time a new demographic change will occur. It will basically come down to which party is more socialist and offer more free goodies. Heck I’m thinking Trudeau already planning to double the immigration rate to 600k and just declaring himself King.
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We have tent cities in BC mainly Van/Vic but they’re spreading to Nanaimo and elsewhere, like Peterborough, Ontario: https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/...ismantled/

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(10-23-2019 11:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  We don't have tent cities in Canada.

There are tent cities all across the country. It's a growing problem that we can expect to see continue.

Winter clears them out for a few months each year, but they pop back up each spring.

Alberta: https://globalnews.ca/news/6023898/edmon...-landlord/

BC: https://www.focusonvictoria.ca/nov-dec-2...sible-r11/

Ontario: https://www.barrietoday.com/local-news/f...os-1023448

Ontario: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/cornwall-o...-1.3555431

Ontario: https://globalnews.ca/news/5499304/tent-city-peterborough-solutions/

New Brunswick: https://globalnews.ca/news/5789616/monct...s-shelter/
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(10-23-2019 11:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  We don't have tent cities in Canada.

A lot of wealthy areas in Toronto and the suburbs voted Liberal due to Doug Ford looking to cut white collar jobs, like teachers and government workers.

The popular vote was won by the conservatives, but that wasn't enough to get the win.

What is a immigrant invader?

The Somalians who keep getting busted for selling drugs in Northern Ontario.

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Go to some areas just outside of Toronto; Brampton and Missisaugua for instance and you would swear you're in India.
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I work on an IT project where most of the conversation takes place in Hindi. We are invaded.

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How an immigration scheme steers newcomers into Canadian trucking jobs – and puts lives at risk: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/a...stigation/

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(10-23-2019 08:45 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Are there any burgeoning tent cities in Canada like Roosh has chronicled in Portland and LA?

Only one place in Canada where tent-town dwellers wouldn't die during the winter: southern BC. And there are more of them there than anywhere else in the country. It's not brutal, but it's annoying.

BC, in terms of raw beauty and livability, is much nicer than the rest of Canada. Sadly, because of that, they attract the most socialists, too.
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(10-24-2019 04:52 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 08:45 PM)Athanasius Wrote:  Are there any burgeoning tent cities in Canada like Roosh has chronicled in Portland and LA?

Only one place in Canada where tent-town dwellers wouldn't die during the winter: southern BC. And there are more of them there than anywhere else in the country. It's not brutal, but it's annoying.

BC, in terms of raw beauty and livability, is much nicer than the rest of Canada. Sadly, because of that, they attract the most socialists, too.

Ya Hastings is very bad but no where near as bad as the tent cities in LA/Portland.

Surprisingly, Kelowna has a ton of homelessness for the size of its population.
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Politicians have sold the country out a long time ago.

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Not surprising, Kelowna has the best weather in Canada.

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(10-23-2019 11:22 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  What is a immigrant invader?

I probably took that idea from Vox Day, who quotes Martin Von Crevald saying that immigration is invasion is war. "How would it have been any less an invasion if Hitler had sent one million unarmed Hitler Jugend to cross the English channel on rafts seeking asylum?"
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(10-24-2019 06:14 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Politicians have sold the country out a long time ago.

I agree, the watershed sellout being either Mulroney or Martin as prime minister. I would argue that Mulroney started it but Martin finished it off.

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For you gun owners out there, make sure you top up your contributions to the NFA, CCFR, CSSA, whoever. Apparently Prime Minister Dipshit is preparing to use the Dec 6th 30th anniversary of the Polytechnique shooting to announce his sweeping gun ban.

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https://nationalpost.com/opinion/np-view...-say-about

Looks like some tough times ahead for the west.

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Gwyn Morgan, founder and former chief executive of the Alberta oil and gas company, said the move “deeply saddens” him, and placed the blame squarely on the policies of the Liberal government.
“The destructive policies of the Trudeau Liberals have left the company with no choice but to shift its asset base and capital program south of the border. Now, its re-election strikes the final blow,” he said.
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