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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
I hate to say it but I broke the no fap during the quarantine

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03-24-2020 04:16 PM
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Maybe it's a bad idea, but I'm still bringing my toys over. They're happy to get out of the house, I can have them cook for me while I work or whatever. Only downside is they don't want to leave and, now that many of them are unemployed or furloughed, they don't have any hard limit to staying, so I have to be extra firm with them in the morning.
03-24-2020 04:22 PM
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I have been on a no-fap journey since things got shut down here in NY. I haven't masturbated for 2 weeks and I feel much better mentally and physically.
03-28-2020 08:27 PM
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I've got a few days clean again.

I started learning to pray the Rosary yesterday. I feel like it was helpful (although I just started learning so it's kind of too early to say for sure).

I've had a rough couple of months when it comes to avoiding vice and sin.

And I'm the type of guy who, if I fall of the wagon, I will say "fuck it" and end up fapping many times a day, watching porn, and visiting other evil websites (e.g. sites where you meet people and chat on camera). This is especially true since I am out of work due to coronavirus and both of the classes I'm taking are online, so I don't have much to do during the day other than sit around and be on my computer.

Today, I was feeling like I was going to give in to vice again, so I prayed. That helped but it didn't make the feelings totally go away, so I went on a hike with my dad (I am currently living in the woods and my dad is in town for a few days).

I was reading through an old thread that I started, and I found quotes of mine such as this one:

(01-23-2020 09:12 PM)Rob Banks Wrote:  So I've come to believe that any kind of sexual activity outside of marriage is wrong. This includes pornography, masturbation, prostitution, casual sex, and even dating (if marriage and procreation is not your goal). In fact, I believe (and it's fine if some people don't agree with me) that sexual activity is wrong even within a marriage if contraception is used.
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I feel so ridiculous now. In late January, I was posting about how masturbation, porn, and sex outside of marriage are wrong, and yet since then, for the last 2 months, I have probably been worse than anyone on the forum when it comes to engaging in that sort of vice and sin.

No wonder my personal situation (the one I discuss in that thread) has gotten worse.

If I want to truly "fix myself" (as I discussed in that thread), it is extremely important that I stop jerking off, watching porn, and going to bad websites altogether. That means NEVER doing it. Not "every now and then." Not "it's OK to do it as long as I don't use porn." Never.

I am literally committing a mortal sin every time I do it.

I will try and pray every day and take it more seriously than before.

Thankfully, I found my way back to this forum, and (on the advice of certain forum members), I found a very good priest in my area who is doing a good job in helping to guide me spiritually. I made sure to thank God for these things when I prayed today.
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03-29-2020 02:26 AM
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This may or may not be controversial here, but I think it's much more important to stop using porn first than to go full no fap/no porn at the same time. I think it's going to be very difficult to just drop everything at once, and you seem to be stuggling with it. I had quit porn for almost 4 years before I even attempted no fap. If you associate porn and fapping closely together, if you fail at abstaining from one you'll probably fail at both. Concentrate on no porn first, and if you need to rub one out 3 times a day initially, so be it. After you get the porn habit under control, the work on cutting down on the fapping.
03-29-2020 05:26 PM
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I had no trouble quitting porn, but I get abdominal pain after 12 days of not releasing the energy. So I do it 3 to 4 times and month and the rest of the time everything is great and my fantasies stay strong, as does the motivation.
03-30-2020 03:57 AM
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I basically went 2.5 years without porn and about 1.5 years without fapping. I snapped my streak "because of Corona", I was simply bored at home. My streak is back at 1 week, I plan to keep it going again.

My advice would be to quit both porn and fapping at the same time. It's tough but that's where the discipline comes from. When I snapped my streak, I didn't even enjoy it, I just felt like it was incredibly silly.
03-30-2020 10:48 AM
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Pros and cons to quitting porn first vs going cold turkey.

Without knowing any specifics, I'd suggest quitting both at the same time. Try to conquer the beast for at least two months. If you keep falling flat on your face (I'm talking masturbating with porn multiple times a week), then take a step back and quit the porn first, then masturbation. Obviously it'd be best if you quit both at the same time. But, I recognize some men are in so deep that it's overwhelmingly difficult to do both.

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03-30-2020 11:59 AM
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I'm 2 months in no fap. Getting a strong urge to do the deed. Boredom and laziness are definitely the culprits while being on lockdown. There have been times during this streak where I tell myself I'll never fap again and then today... bam...the sudden urge has kicked in and I'm white-knuckling it. Prayer is helping though.

If you watch EMJ's latest video, it makes sense that fapping and watching porn seem appealing as we are being enforced by the state to stay in. I'm noticing how heavily influenced I am from my environment and how easy it is to revert to sloth.
03-30-2020 12:06 PM
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I broke today.

I am living with my gf, but she is out of the house as she is an essential worker and I have been working from home the last couple months. I am not going to beat myself up about it, but one thing I am reading about neuro pathways and habit/patterns of behaviour is that I have to associate great pain with failing and relapsing. So I will associate failing with hurting her emotionally, and really work on avoiding any and all lewd photos online (difficult I know.)

Seem to make it about 2 weeks before cracking, but I know I deserve better, and this is abusive to myself.

Tomorrow is day one again, for the last time.

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03-31-2020 01:14 PM
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It's good energy as well .
04-01-2020 10:33 AM
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I'm still not convinced that fapping is inherently bad...Obviously porn and compulsive daily masturbation are entirely different beasts, but sometimes you have to purge the semen demon. Cranking it once or twice (maximum) a week before you go to sleep doesn't seem like anything to flagellate yourself over.
04-02-2020 09:56 AM
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(03-31-2020 01:14 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  I broke today.

I am living with my gf, but she is out of the house as she is an essential worker and I have been working from home the last couple months. I am not going to beat myself up about it, but one thing I am reading about neuro pathways and habit/patterns of behaviour is that I have to associate great pain with failing and relapsing. So I will associate failing with hurting her emotionally, and really work on avoiding any and all lewd photos online (difficult I know.)

Seem to make it about 2 weeks before cracking, but I know I deserve better, and this is abusive to myself.

Tomorrow is day one again, for the last time.


One thing I have realized when trying to break the habit is that it will always be around me in whatever I do. We are gonna get older but there will always be a young attractive woman where ever you go for the most part. I believe the best way to tackle this is accepting that this is life and the willpower gained from understanding that will help you out.

Another thing that may help you out is talking to your significant other about it. The more I talk about my issues the more empowered I feel and feel our bond growing together.

Keep getting back on that horse, it will be worth it in the end.
04-02-2020 02:01 PM
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(04-02-2020 09:56 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  I'm still not convinced that fapping is inherently bad...Obviously porn and compulsive daily masturbation are entirely different beasts, but sometimes you have to purge the semen demon. Cranking it once or twice (maximum) a week before you go to sleep doesn't seem like anything to flagellate yourself over.

In a secular sense, sure, there might not be much downside to masturbating except that your wife or girlfriend gets jealous.

For Christians it's clear that masturbating is a sin against God. Roosh mentioned this (I believe in one of the EMJ interviews) that when he would masturbate, he wouldn't feel the urge to pray. It's a fact that sin draws you away from God, and masturbation definitely falls under this category. Chastity is a virtue!

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04-02-2020 04:32 PM
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(04-02-2020 04:32 PM)redbeard Wrote:  
(04-02-2020 09:56 AM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  I'm still not convinced that fapping is inherently bad...Obviously porn and compulsive daily masturbation are entirely different beasts, but sometimes you have to purge the semen demon. Cranking it once or twice (maximum) a week before you go to sleep doesn't seem like anything to flagellate yourself over.

In a secular sense, sure, there might not be much downside to masturbating except that your wife or girlfriend gets jealous.

For Christians it's clear that masturbating is a sin against God. Roosh mentioned this (I believe in one of the EMJ interviews) that when he would masturbate, he wouldn't feel the urge to pray. It's a fact that sin draws you away from God, and masturbation definitely falls under this category. Chastity is a virtue!

I get what you're saying, and I appreciate your perspective. I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all, just throwing mine out there. There's a meme of Jesus looking at the universe with the planets and galaxies and all that and in small text next to his face it says "don't masturbate." I'm sure you get the joke, but when God created man and gave us two hands and a powerful sex drive, he had to known what was going to go down. Seems kind of ridiculous to create a being driven by sexual urges and then make releasing them yourself a sin.

I'll fully concede my ignorance and that I don't know everything but stuff like this makes it hard for me to fully dive into religion. If anything doing NoFap just allows lustful thoughts to run rampant through my mind and would make it harder to pray/focus on God.
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Hey no disrespect there, I see where you're coming from.

Sex drive was created so that man has drive to get married and reproduce. Venerable Fulton Sheen mentions this many times in "Three To Get Married" (excellent book). The sex drive is what motivates us to pair up. Once you're in a relationship, the fruits of it (bonding, offspring, etc.) are what keep you going, but libido is the spark that starts things up.

I agree that it's not ideal for man to go decades without sex. Remember that historically, men married around 18-22. If we hit puberty around 15 (ballpark), that means you only go 3-5 years without sex. In the grand scheme of things, that's not very long. But, it's long enough for men to learn to develop the discipline to practice chastity.

Today men are marrying in the 30-40 range (if at all), which means you should stay celibate for somewhere between 15-20 years before marriage. That's insane. One of the objectives of marriage is to help curb lust. Celibacy is hard, and (as we've seen here) waiting decades to marry is a surefire recipe for men to fall into casual sex, masturbation, and porn addiction.

Even in marriage, chastity is a valuable skill. For example, after giving birth, it's unlikely your wife will want to have sex for at least a few months, and it's not uncommon for her to take up to a year to recover. In that time, your marriage will hurt if you're constantly masturbating next to her or pushing her to have sex.

Therefore we can see that the point of having a sex drive is:

-develop discipline
-motivate you to meet women

Putting these together makes a whole lot more sense than rationalizing that God made us horny so that we can pleasure ourselves.

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