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^Yes. It's ridiculous. If a group of men can't discuss a topic it doesn't really give much hope for greater society.
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(03-26-2020 12:55 AM)kamoz Wrote:  Can you, or others provide a timeframe after which you will say "you know what, this is BS." End of April? I might be persuaded if this does indeed end by then, but it probably won't. It will stretch out because "multiple waves", "people aren't listening", "mutations." Will the goalposts move because of that?

My personal one is shutdown for up to one month total based on locales as long as the death rate keeps declining. Then let people go back to work at their own risk with very strong suggestions and constant updates from federal and local governments based on age, pre-existing conditions etc. as data rolls in.

If people are in a high risk group and cannot go into public to work, they get benefits.

I think any death total averaging over a 1,500 a day or approx. 500,000 per year for the nation then divide that by the population of that locale that is suffering to get the "let's shutdown again number". The number of how many deaths a day that local hospital system is able support is also very relevant. Somewhere around that rate though is my feeling. A million deaths a year rate for America is too hard for me to personally swallow when we can wear masks and shutdown periodically. The acceptable rate should definitely be multiples higher than the flu to be reasonable. If flu kills 70k and this kills 500k that is a 7x multiple which is still very brutal.

Like I have said 5 times now I am fine with people going back April 6th to work and having mandates to wear masks. Going back to public life without mandated masks is lunacy until the virus is firmly under control. For bars and restaurants you must be in groups no bigger than 4 per table and must sit 10 feet apart from other groups. Maybe for eating and drinking establishments wear masks come off, you have a capacity density per square footage rule. No standing room crowds for concerts, raves, bars, clubs, festivals, sportsball until the death rate is in obvious and swift decline in that locale. When it does decline have wearing masks at these events as much as possible, I don't care if there is a silly straw hole in the mask for drinkers, vapers, and smokers. Something is better than nothing.
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(03-26-2020 11:52 AM)rainy Wrote:  The N95 masks...anyone know how long they can be used or can they be reusable.

I was able to get a pack of 20.

I'm not as concerned about me but rather my pregnant wife. Her OBGYN strongly suggested she where a mask and gloves to her appointment tomorrow.

BTW, here in NY it's bad enough that when my wife is scheduled for a C-section in May, no siblings, family members or even me, the spouse are allowed in the hospital. I'll drop her off in the morning for the C-section and I guess, pick her up and my newborn 2-3 days later. I don't know how many of you are fathers but it's kind of crazy to be looking down the barrel of your wife delivering a baby by herself and you can't be in the hospital at all.

If you have enough to cycle on-and-off, I've heard leaving them in direct sunlight can help the UV rays kill the virus. Just be really careful that you wash your hands properly before removing the mask, taking care not to touch the fabric, but only the elastic bands.

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Furthermore I've a relative who's a truck driver and he's travelling to Spain (Madrid) in a weekly basis, claims he wears gloves and a mask, but I'm doubtful. No symptoms so far. Neither him or his family, which I've had contact several times in the past weeks.

Having been to an hospital in the middle of a pandemic and in contact with risky populations all I can say is that I've coughed, sneezed and even had body aches, maybe I'll worry when I get a nasty fever.

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(03-26-2020 11:57 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  Can we just start a Skeptics vs. Pandemics thread instead of ignoring each other because we disagree or is that not allowed?

Why don't we just hash out our best arguments for each side like men (in another thread) instead of throwing thinly veiled shade from our own little threads at each other.

There is already a gyroper vs. zionist thead so I don't see how this is any different.

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The most alarming aspect of this whole crisis is how eager most people are to turn over their liberty and to suppress the rights of others on the mere chance that it might slow the spread of a virus that's less harmful than a bad strain of the flu.

Nobody is asking why the authorities, despite admitting the virus is primarily transmitted in the air and advising healthcare professionals to take aerosol precautionary measures, aren't advising people to wear homemade masks, which are proven to be effective in reducing the transmission of airborne particles.

All of the measures being proposed by the mainstream media, who all of a sudden are looking out for our best interests and should be trusted, are pushing measures which will change the legal and financial landscape of the world forever. The measures which don't require drastic loss of personal rights and quality of life aren't even being pursued.

If homemade mask use is 50% effective, every authority should be on the megaphone getting everyone on the mask bandwagon. If this can drop the r0 enough to flatten the curve, why aren't we hearing all about this? Why isn't the media covering it?

Instead, they're telling us that at the same time we should believe that
1) Masks aren't effective.
2) The shortage of masks for healthcare workers is a major emergency.
3) All the countries which successfully stopped the spread of Covid had widespread mask use, but that doesn't matter.
4) Lockdown of all citizens, shutdown of the right to put food on their table and not get kicked out of their house, and removal of freedom of travel might slow the spread of the virus by an unknown amount (5%?) but is absolutely necessary. Trust us, we're the same people who botched every crisis we've been put in charge of.
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To everyone saying Italy is starting to flatten the curve:

By now, I finally understand why Hitler lost the war. The US/NATO will fare well by ditching Italy as an ally in preparation for the next war.

Contrary to your views, fact is that Italy is far from seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. What Italy needs the most is government efficiency right now. Every piece of news we hear is about healthcare overload in Italy. This is obviously stemming from the incompetence of the Italian government to muster a cohesive crisis response and haughty overconfidence in their system.

By March 22, Madrid, Spain has completed construction of its first temporary hospital providing 5000 beds.
Quote: https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/...-in-spain/

We have yet to see Italy to do the same.

Quote: http://www.therepublic.com/2020/03/13/vi...hospitals/

But Italy is desperate, and offers of other European assistance haven’t been pouring in. Already, the civil protection service has erected more than 500 triage tents outside hospitals nationwide.

Lombardy officials had drafted a proposal to build a Wuhan-style field hospital on the grounds of Milan’s fairgrounds to accommodate the expected ICU overflow. But Italy’s Civil Protection agency nixed the idea, saying it can’t equip it in time.

This week, the government passed a decree allowing Lombardy to make new medical hires, and there’s now a “Help Wanted” sign on the regional government’s Facebook page. As of Thursday, 650 doctors and nurses had applied and 100 had been hired, said Lombardy health chief, Giulio Gallera.

Even to this day, they are taking their precious time sifting through the applications, instead of taking in everyone and putting the shittier doctors to work in easy-difficulty tasks.

And don't get me started on that Civil Protection Agency. I can't fathom what the fuck was going on there, apparently it doesn't know how to buy supplies when manufacturing can't keep up, transfer the low-risk patients into them ? Japan currently makes 100 millions masks a week, and China, per day, and vents are in full mode production in both countries right now. If they were thinking about over-reliance, perhaps they should focus on getting out of the massive hole they've fallen into first.

The Italian people will unfortunately pay for the inefficiency and incompetence of their government. There is no reason Italy could not do what Spain could. Spain is 20k cases behind and they got their hospital set up possibly weeks quicker than the Italians (if they can finally stop squabbling and build up).

Quote: Francesco Rocca, head of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent and himself an Italian, choked up as the pallets were offloaded from the China Eastern Airlines charter flight.

“We, the Italian Red Cross, are not used to receiving donations,” Rocca said. “We normally donate.”

Yeah, yeah, shut up. We know you used to not need help. If the Italians could put the same amount of effort from bitching about their former Roman/donation glory, they would have been out of this by now.

Never thought I would say this but Spain >>> Italy.
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(03-26-2020 11:57 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  Can we just start a Skeptics vs. Pandemics thread instead of ignoring each other because we disagree or is that not allowed?

Why don't we just hash out our best arguments for each side like men (in another thread) instead of throwing thinly veiled shade from our own little threads at each other.

There is already a gyroper vs. zionist thead so I don't see how this is any different.

How do we define a skeptic vs. a true believer?

Is it anyone who acknowledges the virus exists considered a believer?

Is anyone who thinks that anything less than putting people into metal boxes to suffocate to death is a skeptic that's just letting the virus run its course?
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(03-26-2020 12:10 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  The most alarming aspect of this whole crisis is how eager most people are to turn over their liberty and to suppress the rights of others on the mere chance that it might slow the spread of a virus that's less harmful than a bad strain of the flu.

That is rich when you’re advocating exactly that for tens of millions of fellow citizens.

And no it is not less harmful than the flu

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Quote:NBCUniversal’s CEO Jeff Shell has informed the company that he has tested positive for the Chinese coronavirus.

Shell, 55, alerted the staff of his diagnosis in a memo in which he said that he is asymptomatic and will be self-quarantined and working from home.

“I recently have been feeling under the weather and just learned that I have tested positive for Covid-19,” Shell wrote in the email, CNBC reports. “Although the virus has been tough to cope with, I have managed to work remotely in L.A. and am improving every day.”

Shell replaced Steve Burke as CEO last year.

Larry Edgeworth, 61, an NBC News technician with preexisting conditions passed away last week from the virus. He was a longtime employee at their 30 Rockefeller Plaza headquarters in New York

“As we have heard from medical professionals, those with underlying health concerns are sadly the most vulnerable,” NBC News Chairman Andy Lack wrote Friday morning.

Stacy Brady, NBCUniversal’s executive vice president of field and production operations, said he was known as the “gentle giant who would give you the shirt off his back.”

“Larry was a gentle bear of a man, the heart and soul of our extended NBC family,” Andrea Mitchell, NBC News’ chief foreign affairs correspondent, said. “I was always cheered and reassured knowing he was on the team in the field. He always had my back whether here in the U.S. or in the most dangerous situations around the world.”

At least two other NBC News employees also tested positive in the days surrounding his death.
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^Hansel: there might be an organized hitjob underway against Northern Italy.

I mean, what are the 3 most damaged populations, with this coronavirus outbreak: Salvini-voting Northern Italy, anti-World Order Iran, anti-old World Order China.

Some troubling facts: the masks that China had urgently sent to Milan, were "lost" in transit in Alt-Left City of Praga. The Alt-Left PM of Italia can only remain in power if Northern Italy is decimated, brought to its knees.

^thoughtgypsy: I explained earlier that the Western diverse countries have told us that "masks don't work" only because if we wear masks on the streets, the (masked) Vibrants and terrorists will massively assault and micro-assault at all and any opportunity. Same reason why they told us "gloves don't work". If we go about with masks and gloves, there will be holdups everywhere all the time in all diverse cities.

Believe me, diverse vibrant cities will never allow male citizens to systematically walk in the streets masked and gloved. They'd rather have us die from coronavirus (assuming coronavirus really kills non-drepanocitosis healthy men, that's another matter), before opening the door for mass muggings on gigantic scale.

In any case, I agree with other members here, we should give the Establishment 3 weeks more with their Quarantine wet dream thing of cancelling our liberties of movement and congregation (while themselves waltz about surrounded by journalists).

After these 3 weeks, we'll see. If, as I bet will be the case, meek coronavirus has not killed "exponentially" at all, we should demand explanations. Is this coronavirus really a big killer, apparently not, or, is coronavirus extremely dangerous for a reason that the Establishment is hiding from us? Is coronavirus too weak to kill, but vicious enough to half-destroy the lungs of 80% of the world population? Is coronavirus packing some heat that we've not been told about, is the virus killing reproductive function as was told by some?

If Establishment wants our compliance for months and months of Confinement, they should tell us the truth about this seemingly not very lethal coronavirus that apparently kills less than the half-ass Dengue. Where it came from, what are its side-effects, why the urgency, what really happened in Wuhan (or Qom) to frighten so much the world leaders.
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(03-26-2020 12:09 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(03-26-2020 11:57 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  Can we just start a Skeptics vs. Pandemics thread instead of ignoring each other because we disagree or is that not allowed?

Why don't we just hash out our best arguments for each side like men (in another thread) instead of throwing thinly veiled shade from our own little threads at each other.

There is already a gyroper vs. zionist thead so I don't see how this is any different.

This thread is only for general coronavirus news, updates, and analysis. For skeptic views of any sort, post in this thread: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74750.html

It sounds like people who disagree with the skeptics are free to go to that thread and argue, but the skeptics aren't satisfied, and want to argue in non skeptic threads

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It seems like the best data indicates that we will experience this in waves. That fits the historic models.

But, it raises two concerns:

1) Mutations. Even if this wave is moderate, a future iteration may be more severe. Which raises the next point:

2) Protections. Many on the left will be drawn to “papers, please” rules & forced vaccinations.

We are well-advised to be wary of any system that requires such proofs before you can earn money (see, Revelations). There will be a push during this or a future crisis to have a system that identifies & tracks people with “disease.”

Again, this is why it is important to educate people to protect themselves as much as possible (and call B.S. when you see it). Otherwise, people will clamor for a BigGov “solution,” which might fix one issue, while causing several others (like our response to 9/11).

I wonder if this explains the cynical ploy of UK authorities (do nothing=herd immunity) so that they could further strengthen their 1984-government? This might also explain the bizarre behavior of certain government officials “banning” anti-malarials shown to be effective (even though they are cheap & available)? There are some twisted people in power who see the population as sheep needing to be culled & guided...
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^^^Reading through both threads, it's clear neither camp is going to adhere to the other's point of view.
Let's just agree to disagree, until this crisis is over, then in a few months (year(s)?), when we'll have the final factual results (final number of infected, final % death count), one camp is going to say "Told you so" to the other.

But by then, we'll be talking about the New Hot Topic, and won't care about the China Virus anymore.
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Other points of consideration...

People have been focus on death rate, but let’s take a step back and focus on the rate of hospitalization. The percentage of people infected that need to be hospitalized is 10-15%.

If the hospital system collapses where doctors and nurses are sick/infected at home/dead. No supplies, no oxygen. The death rate of this disease will go up to 15%. That 30 year old who only needs 2 days of supplemental oxygen will be dead. That 40 year old who needs iv antibiotics to fight the secondary bacterial pneumonia will be dead.

Also 2 weeks ago people were citing statistics such as Tuberculosis killing 3000 people a day and covid 19 only kill 50. Guess what? As of yesterday covid 19 is killing 2200 people a day and this is only focusing on 3-4 metropolitan area versus TB death across billions of 3rd world country population.

It is the exponential increase and the high concentration of death that’s filling up morgues. That is why government is panicking to shut down cities.

The idea of sheltering 65 y/o plus and let everyone else roam is very drastic but not entirely unreasonable. Given that a large percentage of 65 + who go on ventilators will not survive it will be one way of rationing resources and preserve economy. The problem is many of these policy makers are 65+ themselves and probably would not want to entertain this idea.
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(03-26-2020 12:23 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  
(03-26-2020 12:10 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  The most alarming aspect of this whole crisis is how eager most people are to turn over their liberty and to suppress the rights of others on the mere chance that it might slow the spread of a virus that's less harmful than a bad strain of the flu.

That is rich when you’re advocating exactly that for tens of millions of fellow citizens.

And no it is not less harmful than the flu

If you want to see rich, imagine someone who goes by the name of Emancipator

Emancipate (v): to free from restraint, control, or the power of another
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advocating for the restraint, control, and exercise of unconstitutional power over free men, women and children for the flimsiest of reasons.

In case you didn't know, there's no such thing as the flu. There are in fact multiple strains of differing severity.

I've discovered that people who don't meet the claimed criteria for skeptics will still be considered heretics skeptics, so I'm not going to bother trying to pick apart the mental gymnastics any further, and just leave ya'll to your echo chamber.
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(03-26-2020 12:00 PM)Travesty Wrote:  
(03-26-2020 12:55 AM)kamoz Wrote:  Can you, or others provide a timeframe after which you will say "you know what, this is BS." End of April? I might be persuaded if this does indeed end by then, but it probably won't. It will stretch out because "multiple waves", "people aren't listening", "mutations." Will the goalposts move because of that?

My personal one is shutdown for up to one month total based on locales as long as the death rate keeps declining. Then let people go back to work at their own risk with very strong suggestions and constant updates from federal and local governments based on age, pre-existing conditions etc. as data rolls in.

If people are in a high risk group and cannot go into public to work, they get benefits.

Agreed and two things I would stress.

1) Locales need to be treated differently. U.S. is far too big to be treating everyone the same. Places like NYC need to be locked down longer and more restricted over remote counties of Maine for example.

2) Companies that have the ability for remote work should be forced to continue this nationwide until further notice. One thing that annoyed me is the amount of tech companies who did not mandate any work from home orders until the local governments ordered so even though their employees could have been doing this long ago during the initial outbreak. The less people we have out there interacting in person the better so lets focus on getting the industries back who need to be in person first then let the other workers come back when things are better. All of these tech companies have gotten rid of their traditional cubicles and offices and are now in closer open seating setups so it's completely irresponsible to send a bunch of programmers and other office workers to be squeezed back into these sets when there is no reason to do so.
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(03-26-2020 11:35 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  NYC is in total lock down. Murder, car accidents, bike accidents, food poisoning, etc, every form of death is down, way down.

A few hundred people die from this and the morgue is above capacity?

Does that make sense?

(03-26-2020 11:49 AM)Enoch Wrote:  
(03-26-2020 06:15 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  In the grand scheme of things the numbers are nothing but I dont remember refrigerated trucks and ice rinks being used to handle the excess load of corpses from our regular Flu strains in dense urban areas.

Enlighten me.

I hate the authoritarian abuse of power they've instituted without any resistance but calling this a regular flu when you have corpses piling up outside of regular morgue capacity is maaaaybe a time to self-reflect.

Please share piles of corpses videos. I'm sure they must have gone viral (no pun intended) by now.


Go do your own research of how they're moving refrigerated trucks and re-purposing ice rinks in NYC, I'm not your secretary.
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But NYS has only reported 300 deaths. Even if 100% of them are in NYC (most probably are) that's not that many "extra" deaths. And when combined with the drop in deaths we'd expect from fewer people out and about, this focus on "morgues" seems strange. If they said they were building external containment "hospital rooms" I'd understand that more.
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(03-26-2020 03:10 PM)kel Wrote:  But NYS has only reported 300 deaths. Even if 100% of them are in NYC (most probably are) that's not that many "extra" deaths. And when combined with the drop in deaths we'd expect from fewer people out and about, this focus on "morgues" seems strange. If they said they were building external containment "hospital rooms" I'd understand that more.

NYC is up to 345 by itself, and had 100 die from Wednesday morning to Thursday morning. That's probably enough to put pressure on the morgues. Coronavirus corpses may need special handling as well.

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Anthony Fauci has a 100 million dollar partnership with Bill Gates to fund Moderna Inc., the company developing a Coronavirus mRNA vaccine. It has been produced suspiciously fast and is being pushed through to human trials, skipping animals. If Chloroquine cures everyone and removes the fear factor it will ruin their plans. https://nationalfile.com/amp/president-t...-interest/

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Quote:Gates Is Funding Coronavirus Vaccine Candidates That Would Compete With Chloroquine, And Dr. Fauci’s Agency Is Co-Partnering On The Project

The company Moderna is working on a Coronavirus vaccine, which they expect will go into clinical trials in April. Dr. Fauci has heaped praise on Moderna and said that a vaccine is the only way to definitively assure the end of the virus. Gates is working on multiple Coronavirus vaccine projects.

The New Eastern Outlook journal reported:

Quote:“Gates Foundation money is backing vaccine development on every front. Inovio Pharmaceuticals of Pennsylvania received $9 million from the Gates-backed CEPI, Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, to develop a vaccine, INO-4800, which is about to test on humans in April, a suspiciously rapid time frame. In addition Gates Foundation just gave the company an added $5 million to develop a proprietary smart device for intradermal delivery of the new vaccine.

In addition Gates Foundation monies via CEPI are financing development of a radical new vaccine method known as messengerRNA or mRNA.

They are co-funding the Cambridge, Massachusetts biotech company, Moderna Inc., to develop a vaccine against the Wuhan novel coronavirus, now called SARS-CoV-2. Moderna’s other partner is the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), a part of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Head of NIAID is Dr Anthony Fauci, the person at the center of the Trump Administration virus emergency response. Notable about the Fauci-Gates Moderna coronavirus vaccine, mRNA-1273, is that it has been rolled out in a matter of weeks, not years, and on February 24 went directly to Fauci’s NIH for tests on human guinea pigs, not on mice as normal. Moderna’s chief medical adviser, Tal Zaks, argued, “I don’t think proving this in an animal model is on the critical path to getting this to a clinical trial…

Add to this the fact that the Gates Foundation and related entities such as CEPI constitute the largest funders of the public-private entity known as WHO, and that its current director, Tedros Adhanom, the first WHO director in history not a medical doctor, worked for years on HIV with the Gates Foundation when Tedros was a government minister in Ethiopia, and we see that there is practically no area of the current coronavirus pandemic where the footprints of the omnipresent Gates are not to be found. If that is to the good of mankind or grounds to be worried, time will tell.”
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The Hill reported:

Quote:“Going into a Phase One trial within three months of getting the sequence is unquestionably the world indoor record. Nothing has ever gone that fast,” according to Fauci.

While it is uncertain that Moderna’s answer is the solution, Fauci notes that the only surefire way to stop an outbreak is to develop a vaccine. Moderna manufactures drugs around messenger RNA molecules that carry instructions to reprogram cells in the body to operate differently and beneficially. Currently, its genetic technology has not created a vaccine for humans.

The first study of the vaccine will take place at NIAID. If it is successful, a second trial would feature closer to hundreds of people. Pending the results of future studies and regulations, the vaccine may not be readily available
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We beat China bros.
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(03-26-2020 03:05 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Go do your own research of how they're moving refrigerated trucks and re-purposing ice rinks in NYC, I'm not your secretary.

I'll be the secretary. I'm cute.

The ice rink thing happened in Spain, not NYC. They would use some of the massive amount of refrigerated shipping containers available before they start laying dead guys on the blue line.

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That's not how we do things in Russia, comrade.

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