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RE: The Coronavirus Pandemic thread III
We're at a critical crossroad today.

The question is not whether you would save your grandma if you could. Of course you would.

Rather, imagine your cousin's 80 year old diabetic grandma, whose health has been declining for decades, is in the hospital. There is an experimental surgery that might save her, but in order to do it, you must vote in a new law which would create a new taxing and enforcement bureau to pay for it.

The effects of the law will translate to the destruction of entire industries, putting 30% of your countrymen out of work for years. Many of them will end up losing their homes, and some will become homeless and struggle to put food on the table each night. With mass poverty and hunger, violent crime will rise. The new law also grants the government extrajudicial powers to dictate where you can travel and how you can conduct business.

Let's say you help push this new law through, and it turns out the surgery was unsuccessful. Was it worth it? Or, let's say the surgery was successful, and your cousin's grandma recovers and lives an extra 2 years. Still, was it worth it?

Shutting down businesses, imploding the global economy and giving up more personal freedom in return for the unproven possibility of extending the life of a very small portion of the population by a few years is what we're arguing about. It doesn't seem like a good trade off.
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RE: The Coronavirus Pandemic thread III
(03-22-2020 05:54 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  We're at a critical crossroad today.

The question is not whether you would save your grandma if you could. Of course you would.

Rather, imagine your cousin's 80 year old diabetic grandma, whose health has been declining for decades, is in the hospital. There is an experimental surgery that might save her, but in order to do it, you must vote in a new law which would create a new taxing and enforcement bureau to pay for it.

The effects of the law will translate to the destruction of entire industries, putting 30% of your countrymen out of work for years. Many of them will end up losing their homes, and some will become homeless and struggle to put food on the table each night. With mass poverty and hunger, violent crime will rise. The new law also grants the government extrajudicial powers to dictate where you can travel and how you can conduct business.

Let's say you help push this new law through, and it turns out the surgery was unsuccessful. Was it worth it? Or, let's say the surgery was successful, and your cousin's grandma recovers and lives an extra 2 years. Still, was it worth it?

Shutting down businesses, imploding the global economy and giving up more personal freedom in return for the unproven possibility of extending the life of a very small portion of the population by a few years is what we're arguing about. It doesn't seem like a good trade off.

There will be tough decisions coming up and none of our bozo leaders have the balls to make them. The half-assed approach going on now in multiple countries and governments is not sustainable. We need one course of action and we need to stick to that one. There will be fallout regardless.
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^^^^ The alternative is to let the virus run it's course, which will result in an even worse economic situation. The economy will grind to a halt if you let 70% of the population get infected killing 1% (% which assumes advance healthcare). You swamp the healthcare system and it's not only the old/ill that will start dying (what about all the others that need medical attention)

No one is going to work if they get ill/die/disabled. What about people having to care for their loved ones? There's a reason why bereavement leave exists.

You let society crumble and you're going to see even more chaos and strict rules.

Take the hit now, when it's less of a financial impact

(the real action should have been to take the smaller hit to the economy months ago by implementing border controls and spending money on the HC system while putting screening of incoming returnees no matter the cost). We're in this position now because no one wanted to sacrifice the economy earlier (even China tanked their economy too late, imagine if they had done so in December, would have been a smaller hit)

You're not going to get nearly 8Billion people in the world sacrifice human lives for financial reasons.

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(03-22-2020 05:29 PM)Mrredsquare Wrote:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...virus.html

BREAKING NEWS: Harvey Weinstein 'has coronavirus': Rapist, 68, 'tests positive and is put in isolation' just days after he was moved from Rikers Island to an upstate NY prison to start his 23-year sentence.

If he is protected by evil forces he will 'die' and settle on one of many Caribbean islands never to be seen again. That would be just perfect smoke screen.

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There is no proof that enacting a Chinese-style complete shutdown and quarantine is effective at reducing pandemic spread.

Of the countries which have succeeded in "flattening the curve", what they all have in common is widespread mask usage.

China was asleep at the wheel for a month, and cases exploded in the epicenter of the outbreak. When they acknowledged that there was a problem, the case numbers in other provinces were small, and people started wearing masks everywhere they went. Deaths were high in Wuhan, but nowhere else.

We don't have nearly enough masks in western countries, and there's a social stigma with wearing them. So we're embarking on the nuclear option of shutting down all non-essential businesses in the hopes that we might slow down the spread, without any proof that it works.

We could be doing an at-risk population quarantine, which would likely be equally effective, but have minimal economic impact, but we're not. If this scorch the earth total shutdown "works", we'll have likely put a lot of souls out of work-- without a roof over their head or food in their bellies. All to extend the life of 0.1% of the population by a couple years. If this total shutdown doesn't work.. Either way, it doesn't seem worth it.
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There is no such thing as "at-risk population quarantine", it's an idle fantasy dreamed up by Boris Johnson's speechwriter after a heavy dose of magic mushrooms. You can't quarantine 50* million people while 250 are doing business as usual, there simply isn't enough space, resources or anything else that you can imagine to take care of that 50* million without them interacting with the other 250.

* = as Emancipator explained below, the real ratio is more like 150 to 150 million, not 50 to 250, which makes it even more impossible.

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(03-22-2020 06:09 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  There is no proof that enacting a Chinese-style complete shutdown and quarantine is effective at reducing pandemic spread.

Of the countries which have succeeded in "flattening the curve", what they all have in common is widespread mask usage.

China was asleep at the wheel for a month, and cases exploded in the epicenter of the outbreak. When they acknowledged that there was a problem, the case numbers in other provinces were small, and people started wearing masks everywhere they went. Deaths were high in Wuhan, but nowhere else.

We don't have nearly enough masks in western countries, and there's a social stigma with wearing them. So we're embarking on the nuclear option of shutting down all non-essential businesses in the hopes that we might slow down the spread, without any proof that it works.

We could be doing an at-risk population quarantine, which would likely be equally effective, but have minimal economic impact, but we're not. If this scorch the earth total shutdown "works", we'll have likely put a lot of souls out of work-- without a roof over their head or food in their bellies. All to extend the life of 0.1% of the population by a couple years. If this total shutdown doesn't work.. Either way, it doesn't seem worth it.

Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea all also violated personal privacy rights and accessed phone data and gave this info on the infected out to the public so they could trace and get tested.

South Korea raided a religious institution's office and seized personal information of 200K members.

They all implemented proper border control and screened incoming visitors.

I agree on masks, absolutely stupid for western governments to lie to the population on effectiveness just because they can't make enough. Everyone wears it pretty much gives you a herd immunity effect.

China quarantined the outbreak centre, and did the same personal information via apps where citizens can view where they infected were in their home time. They also limited movement of 700M outside Hubei and shutdown the biggest cultural event for the people (Chinese New Year) and closed schools. They used the apps and CCTV to track and isolate the small numbers outside Hubei.
They did shutdown non-essential businesses and tank their economy. Look at their economic output for February. They DID implode the global economy, we're past that stage since it's not exclusive to select few countries.

It took them one and a half months until they could finally have the rest of the country back to normal (today)

Let's take the US for example, how are you going to quarantine the at-risk population
121.5 million Americans with cardiovascular disease
26 million with diabetes
15.7 million with COPD
26 million with asthma
The 36.6% of Americans that are overweight and 26.5% obese
30% of Americans are over the age of 55

Same economic argument (Muh Gee-Dee-Pee is going to get affected by limiting refugees and immigrants, screw my countries demographics and societal structure, think of the economy!)

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(03-22-2020 06:09 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  There is no proof that enacting a Chinese-style complete shutdown and quarantine is effective at reducing pandemic spread.

Of the countries which have succeeded in "flattening the curve", what they all have in common is widespread mask usage.

China was asleep at the wheel for a month, and cases exploded in the epicenter of the outbreak. When they acknowledged that there was a problem, the case numbers in other provinces were small, and people started wearing masks everywhere they went. Deaths were high in Wuhan, but nowhere else.

We don't have nearly enough masks in western countries, and there's a social stigma with wearing them.

The real reason they are telling us "masks don't work", is because in our Western "diverse" societies, it'd be unthinkable to allow all the people to wear masks in the streets. As most criminals and vibrants would use the opportunity to mug and pillage at every place and shop.

Only homogeneous peaceful societies can function with people masking their faces (and therefore identities) outside of home.

I even suspect the Western authorities to have willingly depleted the stocks of masks, just for this reason.

Matter of fact it has been revealed today that Italy "lost" (in transit in Praga) the stock of masks that China had sent them, so that Italians would have no option to cover faces and identities. (The based Czech then took the masks, to give them to their homogeneous population)

Once again, if the Establishment were to provide masks for say, all Londoners, then in less than 48 hours this city would plunge into massive widespread looting and waves of murders everywhere.

Vibrant nations will never allow their population to wear masks. That's why everywhere you read about "depleted or disappearing stocks".

The Establishment prefers to have us dying in hospitals rather than masked, healthy and happily pillaging banks, Foot lockers and jewellery stores.
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(03-22-2020 06:07 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  The alternative is to let the virus run it's course, which will result in an even worse economic situation. The economy will grind to a halt if you let 70% of the population get infected killing 1% (% which assumes advance healthcare). You swamp the healthcare system and it's not only the old/ill that will start dying (what about all the others that need medical attention)

The first rule of medicine is do no harm. If the medicine stops an infection from running its course, but kills the patient, was the victory worth the cost?

There is no proof that shutting down businesses will make any difference on the virus running it's course. On the other hand, we do know that these extreme, experimental measures will end up killing people due to the economic and social destruction they'll create.

Like it or not, financial reality translates into life or death for the world we live in. Unless you're a farmer, you need money to buy food and shelter. No job, no money, no food. An implosion of the way of life of billions of people will likely translate into millions dead, to minimally extend the life of a fraction of a percent of the population. It's not a trade off of finance for lives. It's trying to save as many people as we can with the situation we're given.

1% of the infected population will not be killed by this virus. If the high r0 of this virus is real, then there is a huge mildly symptomatic population that never checks into a hospital, and the true CFR is likely on par with other common viruses.

It is overwhelming our healthcare facilities, and I think everyone is concerned about that. In this type of situation, we want to do something about it, but I think we need to think rationally about how we proceed. Not every solution is nearly as effective as we'd hope it is, and some of them have extremely dangerous consequences. I think it's time we stepped back and took a sober look at the risks of some of these extreme measures, and whether they're worth the cost.
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(03-22-2020 06:42 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  "There is no proof that shutting down businesses will make any difference on the virus running it's course. On the other hand, we do know that these extreme, experimental measures will end up killing people due to the economic and social destruction they'll create."

This is EXACTLY the same reasoning used by health officials (WHO) and governments when pressed on the issue of implementing screening measures and border controls in response to a disease outbreak.

They often advocated that it does nothing to stop the spread and results in the unintended consequences of economic harm with downstream effects (the same you listed)

China shutdown for a month and a half, how many people faced life or death from the economic harm, is their society still not in place? Had China let this run it's course it's very likely their societal and economic outlook would look much more bleak.

Take action now, every delay results in a worse outlook, the alternative to let it run it's course will result in economic and societal harm in addition to the deaths attributed to the virus itself. No government will be able to survive if the populace views their government acting in such a Machiavellian manner, that's why Boris changed the UK's course of action (herd immunity, isolate at risk groups, sacrifice a chunk of the population to maintain the economy). No western democracy or authoritarian regime viewing this risk chose this course of action.

Even if one country chose to let it run it's course, it's all but a guarantee that the economy is going to face hardships this year (how many other countries in the world is going shutdown vs. let it run it's course), no country is an autarky.

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(03-22-2020 06:12 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  There is no such thing as "at-risk population quarantine", it's an idle fantasy dreamt up by Boris Johnson's speechwriter after a heavy dose of magic mushrooms. You can't quarantine 50 million people while 250 are doing business as usual, there simply isn't enough space, resources or anything else that you can imagine to take care of that 50 million without them interacting with the other 250.

I meant at-risk shelter at home. If you're over 60, or over 40 and have a pre-existing condition, you need to stay home for all but essential trips. This keeps vulnerable people insulated from carriers as much as practically possible, while minimizing social and economic impact. Less emergency funding and aid will be needed, and it can be better deployed towards the population that actually needs it.
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The first time the "at-risk" person ventures out into a society where 75% of the population is infected with coronavirus, they get rekt instantly.

The first time the "at-risk" person goes out to get groceries in a society where 75% of the population is infected with coronavirus, they get rekt instantly.

The first time the "at-risk" person orders takeout from a society where 75% of the population is infected with coronavirus, they get rekt instantly.

The first time the "at-risk" person visits a hospital for their chronic condition in a society where 75% of the population is infected with coronavirus, they get rekt instantly.

The first time the "at-risk" person gets a visit from a family member in a society where 75% of the population is infected with coronavirus, they get rekt instantly.

I could go on and on, but you get the point. It cannot be done. If you just surrendered to the virus like that, the concentration of the virus in the society would rise to such tremendous levels that it would be practically impossible for a vulnerable person to even peek out of the door without getting infected.. and thus getting back to square one.

Of course, we could gather the 50-150 million people in inflatable plastic bubbles and have robots bring them food for several years, but in the end, that would probably be the same as killing them.

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A scenario where 75% of the population is infected at any given time is pure fantasy.

People get sick, then they recover or die. There is a short window of time where they're shedding the virus, maybe a few days or more. Then they develop antibodies and will no longer spread it, or their conditions worsen and they go to the hospital. At any given time, the number of people who are infected with a single strain of virus is probably on the order of 1%. Everyone has been sick before, but not everyone is sick right now.

A healthy population, with a virtually 0% CFR for their cohort will get sick and develop antibodies. Some people will be hospitalized, but the vast majority of people will recover perfectly fine. The virus will go through that population and burn itself out as the number of available carriers drops to near zero.

During this time, grandpa can get his groceries delivered by a loving relative, or don an N95 mask (as the limited supply is now sufficient if its only needed for 1/5 of the population) and go there once a month on off hours to pick up all his necessities.
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I don't think we will see 75% of the population infected at the same time. However, I do think we'll see 75% infected within the next few months.

If a vulnerable, high risk person tries to avoid infection, they can probably delay it, and might even manage to fully avoid it, but I think most will get it anyway.

Most likely, the most that can be done is to reduce the load at the hospital at any given time. Even with efforts to do this, I think we will still see hospitals being overwhelmed and having to triage vulnerable patients.

So, the fact that 75% won't be infected all at once is moot. I think HCE is right that vulnerable patients can run, but they can't hide. CV is gonna get them.

On a positive note, I do expect there will be improvements in treatment protocols, and the percentage of patients needing ICU and ventilator treatment is likely to go way down. This is our best hope for vulnerable patients to survive when they get the Coronavirus, which I think most will end up getting.

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People forget that a bunch of young people would die if they didn't receive ICU treatment.

There might not be that many compared to the elderly, but it would still be thousands of younger people dying in every country.

Let's say you choose to treat them all, because young people dying is not a good look. Then you have to let the old people die in their nursing homes as they slowly suffocate under great pain.

Instead of 10.000 dead in Italy, maybe it's 20-30.000 old people dead at this point. 20-30.000 grandmothers and grandfathers and a lot of people traumatized and scarred for life by seeing the government sentencing the elderly to painful horrible deaths.

So it's clear the "let it runs its course" simply isn't feasible. It's morally abhorrent and even if you were willing to enact a social darwinist policy like that, it would lead to wide scale revolt and likely public executions of the responsible parties.
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Whenever I think of backpackers, it’s usually a bad stereotype of them lacking hygiene etc. I admit it. Here, Colombians and others with them are not being more careful imho. In an airport and plane, I think everyone should wear a mask.
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(03-22-2020 11:04 AM)Dusty Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 03:45 PM)Dusty Wrote:  COVID-19 US deaths:

3/18 150, +38% from prior day
3/19 207, +38% from prior day
3/20 256, +24% from prior day

The daily death growth rate slowed yesterday. Let’s hope that’s a new trend. Only one data point though.

Huge difference between 38% daily growth, versus 24%.

The three day rolling average daily death growth rate is 33%. You take that out 30 days, and you have 1.4 million deaths. Let’s keep an eye on that and hope it decelerates.

Update

COVID-19 US deaths (Worldometer):

3/19 207, +38% from prior day
3/20 256, +24% from prior day
3/21 302, +18% from prior day

3 day rolling average daily growth rate: 27%. At that rate, the number of deaths doubles every three days.

Today’s numbers are in on Worldometer. Not a good day.

COVID-19 US deaths (Worldometer):

3/20 256, +24% from prior day
3/21 302, +18% from prior day
3/22 419, +39% from prior day

3 day rolling average daily growth rate: 27%. At that rate, the number of deaths doubles every three days.
03-22-2020 09:37 PM
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Well the silver lining here is the Chinese and their Globalist Democrat traitorous partners have pissed off DoD, 28 million living veterans, the US Senate and most of America for removing any doubt that they launched this bio war against us to hit back over tarriffs over the Chinese illegal trade manipulations and organized industrial espionage...

China Threatens to Throw America 'Into the Mighty Sea of the Coronavirus.'

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/chi...rus-130877

China is threatening to wreak havoc on America’s drug supply amid the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. Thanks to our globalist elite and especially missteps during the Obama-Biden administration, Beijing has the power to do just that.

In an article in Xinhua, one of the Chinese Communist Party’s mouthpieces, Beijing threatened that it can impose pharmaceutical export controls after which America will be “plunged into the mighty sea of coronavirus.”

Unfortunately, Beijing isn’t bluffing about this capability.

As Rosemary Gibson, co-author of “China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America’s Dependence on China for Medicine,” testified to a congressional commission last summer, China has a dominant role in the manufacture of the generic drugs that comprise 90 percent of what Americans take.

The Chinese government has used its favorite playbook to make the world dependent on its drugs: protecting and subsidizing domestic manufacturers to undersell American competitors, aided by Chinese industrial espionage. Indeed, biotechnology is one of ten categories of Beijing’s “Made in China 2025” industrial strategy which has driven so much of its theft of intellectual property and dumping of goods at below-market prices to kill U.S. businesses.

To fix this medical vulnerability, Trump should apply gradually increasing, permanent tariffs on Chinese drugs and ingredients. He should also establish a strategic reserve of drugs by requiring the Defense Department and Veterans Affairs to buy only drugs that are 100 percent made in America. This domestic demand would create domestic supply.

Trump should also press drug companies to start a crash program to achieve supply chain independence from China. If would be great if he could achieve this through an appeal to patriotism. If not, he should use the Defense Production Act of 1950 to force the issue.

It’s time to reverse the globalist sellout of America that has put Beijing in charge of our drug supply chain.

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(03-19-2020 10:46 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  
(03-19-2020 10:30 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  [Image: ce00ac84851dcae7.jpeg?1584623019]

Source - https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

The US numbers have been growing ahead of the Italian numbers the last few days. Based on this, we're about 6-7 days from numbers like the Italians are seeing now.

Three days ago seems like a long time.

Following the trend in this chart, we'd be at 15,000 cases today, but we're already over 34,000. We're off the charts at this point. Ten days ago, we had 2269 known cases. Five days ago we had 6233 cases. One would assume most of the deaths to date were known cases 5-10 days ago, so the rate of deaths is somewhere between 452/2269 and 452/6233, which is a death rate of somewhere between 7-20% for people who were somehow able to get tested before dying!

If deaths double every three days, then in 12 days, we will expect to have 7200 deaths, which is 20% of today's known cases. This seems quite plausible based on the known rate of increase. By then, we will have 544K cases if they double every three days. Hopefully social distancing starts to bend the curve soon.

They say the actual number of infected is about 25x the official tested number. If this is true, we will have about 13 million infected in the US in 12 days, about 3% of the population.

Not a good pattern.

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Is everyone forgetting we have MASSIVELY increased testing? My friend works in a hospital and told me it was next to impossible to get a Covid19 test and now they are able to hand them out to a lot more people requesting them.
03-22-2020 11:25 PM
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(03-22-2020 11:25 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  Is everyone forgetting we have MASSIVELY increased testing? My friend works in a hospital and told me it was next to impossible to get a Covid19 test and now they are able to hand them out to a lot more people requesting them.

Testing is important because it allows proper isolation of people who would otherwise be spreading this around. I don't care about the number of positives...

What I do care about is the number of positives who end up needing hospitalization and high acuity/icu intervention.
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(03-22-2020 10:05 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Pulled this from Trump's Twitter feed:

NEW DATA: A French study has demonstrated evidence that the combination of Hydroxychloroquine & Azithromycin are highly effective in treating Covid-19.

The patients enrolled in the study showed complete viral eradication around the 5th day of treatment.

Question is this the flawed study by Witch doctor Didier Raoult or is this study by a different (competent) group?


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The small-ish state I'm currently in is reportedly treating our cases with these two meds as of now.

It seems that despite being one of the last states to have cases, we were early to set up the drive through testing and now early to use these meds - happy for that. Hope we can keep up the proactivity here locally.
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